Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Maybe a shotgun is better for home defense...

From the ground yet, which is a problem on account of a target higher than you, you'd have to shoot up, don't think my range would allow that. Maybe I'll just practice aiming for ankles instead.

Glad nobody shot themselves getting out of bed. What a cool drill

Hey tks, but modesty compels me to admit I ain't assumed room temperature yet.

Get the fugg outta here,, I laughed at that till I cried. You just got 2 new dogs, dogs that require food & medical. The budget allowed that? Get a bed for Christ sakes.

You are a hoot!

Not really, but when I began this grind four years back I had been left with three dogs and two cats, or 140lbs of pet total.. Then I was down to just the one dog, these other two only add up to 40lbs between 'em so with the other one I thrown in I started at 140lbs and am now down to 80. See? its all in the way you look at things.

Anyways, the grandkid likes the dogs.

As to sleeping on the floor; got used to it in my Africa days, liked the simplicity of it, now I do it so I still can. Hey, getting up off of the floor every morning without resorting to any supports ain't no small thing for me any more.

Beds are for women and for sleeping with women, YMMV.

Well, the bed thing is an interesting concept to say the least. Owning pets by the pound is a new one on me though.

But having good shotgun & knowing how to use it is still important IMO.

In reality, two new dogs sorta sucks but it woulda took a hard heart to turn 'em away, especially them waiting for their owner and hanging together the whole time the way they did. As long as that whole episode doesn't happen more'n once in twenty years I can deal with it.

As for shotguns, I've used pumps but not enough, I'm a guy who would prob'ly short stroke them under pressure, actually i really enjoy the simplicity of doubles.

If I hadn't spent all my stimulus money on hookers and coke, I would be a serious bidder on this....


https://www.gunbroker.com/item/866935248

Ya reckon that long sticker would be effective in close quarters?

I have a '97, not the military version, but cut down for cowboy action shooting with chokes. It was already fixed like that when I got it. No, I didn't butcher a fine '97.

You spent all that money on hookers and coke, wasted the rest....



DF

Just left my gunsmiths place. He had a Benelli M4 used in like new condition just like this one for sale @ $2100.00

That was an easy, No Thanks, due to price point.

I got to finally grope a good shotgun with the pistol grip. I can see the advantage for securing it while sneaking through my house looking for a target...Just a pile-o-money for a weapon I could probably accomplish the same with a straight 870.

Benelli did a really nice job setting this defensive shotgun up. Well balanced, slide ran extremely smooth. Ghost site was ez to pick-up.

Nice weapon, imo. 😎

A shotgun is either a Benelli or it isn't.

Trav, you a fan of Benelli for a home weapon? If, yes, why? Serious question. I don’t have a gauge configured for home defense.

Thinking, I may suck enough with a pistol. May consider it. Curious what your thoughts are....I don’t have kids to sweat. Me, wife and mutt - if that makes a diff.

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I've placed the safety of my family on my awareness,preparation and my Benelli.

Travis, another question, it’s obviously subjective, but I assume you’ve had your hands around a Sig P226 Tacops before.

Your impressions?

The Glock 34 is really nice with it’s long slide. I assume it’s easy getting on target quicker than a 4” slide. Same for my XD Tactical.

I’m musing about the Tacops. Knowing it’s gonna have a smidge more heft than either a G34 or XD Tac.

Your run one? Worth buying one for range fun?

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That's one of the coolest things I've seen lately.

I’m getting there on coming around to a Benelli for home use. These purchases don’t really bother me knowing it’s mostly gonna collect dust sitting, waiting. But, $2100 is an expensive dust catcher.

I consider things like a defensive shotgun like a expensive blender my wife uses once a year. Really helpful, if you need it.

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'97 trench gun.

I can't remember seeing a bayonet that long.

Beaver10:
Top of the morning to you sir, I hope the day is as mild and fair down in your part of the world as it is here on this side of the medicine line thus far.

While I can't comment on shotguns for self defense since it's an area which Canadians are very much under siege from our Federal government currently, I'll talk instead about firearms which might be useful for asking a recalcitrant bruin to leave the immediate area, how's that?



Somehow Rick's photo program has beaten me on arranging this photo the way I'd like to have it, nonetheless one gets the general idea I suppose.

The top one has been in my possession since 1974 or 1975, either way we know each other fairly well and it's run all sorts of shells in most types of conditions one can find in the 3 western provinces.

One thing I do on all of the "serious social shotguns" which run through my shop is to replace the follower with a hi-viz slotted Delrin follower, as well as replace the magazine spring with as heavy a one as will function.

The after market followers which I use can be seen in low light easily and there's the advantage of being able to feel if the magazine is empty with this style as well.



They make a few different styles and 2 color choices.

Anyways, I only needed to have the magazine not function once on me while I was very politely asking a local black bear to forage elsewhere, to convince me there's better ways to go than stock.

You mentioned a pistol grip and indeed the middle one obviously has one. After very limited use with it so far - didn't come with that stock - I'd say personally I can maneuver it in tight spaces - like a tent - a tad easier than a conventional stock.

Some folks say the right hand absorbs or helps absorb more recoil with a vertical pistol grip and while that might be the case, I'm not ready to say one way or the other yet.

The center one is about a pound and a half lighter than the other 2 as well, which absolutely is noticeable both when packing it long distances and shooting it.

The former is why it's my meat packing arm for subsequent trips after deceased ungulates need a ride in a backpack to come to the pickup with me.

The latter is why I usually only run perhaps 20-25 shells through it at one go, since it's both noisy and jumpy.

In all likelihood my friend Doc Rocket is correct in that a semi-auto would make a better choice for serious social circumstances, but seeing as me and pump guns go back more than 4 decades, well I've got a personal bias I guess one might say.

Hopefully that was at least somewhat useful for someone out there in the inner web/ether space today.

All the best to you folks down there sir. Stay well.

Dwayne

I'd have a really hard time recommending that to somebody unless I had seen them shoot. Most people you run into can't shoot DA. I'm not saying you can't but I don't know that you can.

It's honestly a duty gun solution to duty gun problems. i.e. Cops shooting themselves in the ass when going to take a schit at McDonalds.

While it is a great gun, I wouldn't recommend it to most people. And if I had you do drills on the range with that Sig for an hour. And then the G34 for an hour. I'll wager you walk away with the G34 and leave the Sig.

It was for the fat ones.

You don't need a $2,100.00 Benelli M4.

Look for a good condition Benelli M1 Super 90.You can find those for about $6-700.00