I've placed the safety of my family on my awareness,preparation and my Benelli.
I’m getting there on coming around to a Benelli for home use. This purchases don’t really bother me knowing it’s mostly gonna collect dust sitting, waiting. But, $2100 is an expensive dust catcher.
I consider things like a defensive shotgun like a expensive blender my wife uses once a year. Really helpful, if you need it.
You don't need $2,100.00 Benelli M4.
Look for a good condition Benelli M1 Super 90.You can find those for about $6-700.00
There you go...Mucho better!
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Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”
I’m getting there on coming around to a Benelli for home use. These purchases don’t really bother me knowing it’s mostly gonna collect dust sitting, waiting. But, $2100 is an expensive dust catcher.
I consider things like a defensive shotgun like a expensive blender my wife uses once a year. Really helpful, if you need it.
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The M4 is the beast of all beasts.
Expensive, but there is no peer and they hold their value.
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
Travis, another question, it’s obviously subjective, but I assume you’ve had your hands around a Sig P226 Tacops before.
Your impressions?
The Glock 34 is really nice with it’s long slide. I assume it’s easy getting on target quicker than a 4” slide. Same for my XD Tactical.
I’m musing about the Tacops. Knowing it’s gonna have a smidge more heft than either a G34 or XD Tac.
Your run one? Worth buying one for range fun?
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I'd have a really hard time recommending that to somebody unless I had seen them shoot. Most people you run into can't shoot DA. I'm not saying you can't but I don't know that you can.
It's honestly a duty gun solution to duty gun problems. i.e. Cops shooting themselves in the ass when going to take a schit at McDonalds.
While it is a great gun, I wouldn't recommend it to most people. And if I had you do drills on the range with that Sig for an hour. And then the G34 for an hour. I'll wager you walk away with the G34 and leave the Sig.
Yep, you’re correct without seeing me shoot. Thanks!
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Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”
Ya reckon that long sticker would be effective in close quarters?
I have a '97, not the military version, but cut down for cowboy action shooting with chokes. It was already fixed like that when I got it. No, I didn't butcher a fine '97.
You spent all that money on hookers and coke, wasted the rest....
DF
Honestly, I couldn't care less about the sticker...or it's usefulness.
That shotgun is a machine. I want it, for multiple reasons, but its bid is well over $2000 now.
Not a big deal I guess. My 870 Marine will suffice.
The after market followers which I use can be seen in low light easily and there's the advantage of being able to feel if the magazine is empty with this style as well.
They make a few different styles and 2 color choices.
In Kentucky (and other states with a castle law) it's a very bad idea to enter someone's house uninvited.
They're paid for.
Texas too, in Texas if someone comes into your house uninvited you can shoot them. Its not really the legal system you'd need to worry about, tho IIRC civil suits are always a possibility.
Nope, not as long as you were justified criminally:
CIVIL PRACTICE AND REMEDIES CODE
TITLE 4. LIABILITY IN TORT
CHAPTER 83. USE OF FORCE OR DEADLY FORCE
Sec. 83.001. CIVIL IMMUNITY. A defendant who uses force or deadly force that is justified under Chapter 9, Penal Code, is immune from civil liability for personal injury or death that results from the defendant's use of force or deadly force, as applicable.
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"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same." - Ronald Reagan
The after market followers which I use can be seen in low light easily and there's the advantage of being able to feel if the magazine is empty with this style as well.
They make a few different styles and 2 color choices.
Dwayne
I am going to look into one of those.
Thanks for showing that.
Howdy Dwayne (& Tiny),
Forgive my lack of diplomacy Dwayne (Tiny will have full mag, so different), why the need ?
Boom, boom, boom = EMPTY !
Paul.
"Kids who grow up hunting, fishing & trapping, do not mug little old Ladies"
Ya reckon that long sticker would be effective in close quarters?
I have a '97, not the military version, but cut down for cowboy action shooting with chokes. It was already fixed like that when I got it. No, I didn't butcher a fine '97.
You spent all that money on hookers and coke, wasted the rest....
DF
Honestly, I couldn't care less about the sticker...or it's usefulness.
That shotgun is a machine. I want it, for multiple reasons, but its bid is well over $2000 now.
Not a big deal I guess. My 870 Marine will suffice.
I see these come up pretty regularly on GunAuction under the seller Jackthedog. This condition or better always fetch $3-5k
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Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”
The after market followers which I use can be seen in low light easily and there's the advantage of being able to feel if the magazine is empty with this style as well.
They make a few different styles and 2 color choices.
Dwayne
I am going to look into one of those.
Thanks for showing that.
Howdy Dwayne (& Tiny),
Forgive my lack of diplomacy Dwayne (Tiny will have full mag, so different), why the need ?
Boom, boom, boom = EMPTY !
Paul; Good afternoon to you good sir, I hope you and your fine family are well on this nice day.
The follower in question actually comes from your neck of the woods or closer to you than me Paul
Why is a fine question and I'll attempt to answer.
As a mechanic you likely know that Delrin has a built in lubricity, so if we have two objects which are similar materials - say steel on steel like the stock magazine tube and follower, they're going to be much more prone to friction than dissimilar materials, especially resins with built in lubricity.
Then there's the clean out slots one can see in the S&J follower - which not all Delrin followers have might I add and I happen to think it's a must.
When I mentioned dealing with a magazine malfunction at the beginnings of a social discussion with a local black bear, the cause was years and years of duck hunting, camping trips and general use that built up over time.
Now to be sure Paul I had cleaned the mag tube, but I hadn't disassembled it and when I did that - the Mossberg/Lakefield Mossberg ones use a chemical thread locker of some sort so a judicious amount of heat is required to get the Loc-Tite stuff to release - again you know that stuff - but it's there to deal with.
Anyway when I pulled it apart I could see that the situation would arise again and again because of the design and tolerances that need to be there. A slotted side Delrin follower solved that problem in spades.
Also and this is a pretty big also - the S&J follower has that big ridge and hole in the center, so one can feel it in total darkness.
It does not feel anything like either a shot shell or the stock follower - which feels too much like a shot shell in my opinion.
Hopefully all that made some sense and was useful.
In Kentucky (and other states with a castle law) it's a very bad idea to enter someone's house uninvited.
They're paid for.
Texas too, in Texas if someone comes into your house uninvited you can shoot them. Its not really the legal system you'd need to worry about, tho IIRC civil suits are always a possibility.
Nope, not as long as you were justified criminally:
CIVIL PRACTICE AND REMEDIES CODE
TITLE 4. LIABILITY IN TORT
CHAPTER 83. USE OF FORCE OR DEADLY FORCE
Sec. 83.001. CIVIL IMMUNITY. A defendant who uses force or deadly force that is justified under Chapter 9, Penal Code, is immune from civil liability for personal injury or death that results from the defendant's use of force or deadly force, as applicable.
Birdwatcher is in desperate need of a bicycle or bird feeder thread.
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
This guy can be a little nerdy but he has some good info regardless. Only thing that scares me about stuff like your Winchester is I wouldn't know a fake from a tampon.
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
This guy can be a little nerdy but he has some good info regardless. Only thing that scares me about stuff like your Winchester is I wouldn't know a fake from a tampon.
deflave; Good afternoon to you sir, hope all is well with you all.
Thanks for the video - am watching and listening as I type.
Very uber as Clarke mighta said, no?
All the best to you. Stay well.
Dwayne
Edit: Wouldn't it be cool if we put a shotgun onto a sword!!!
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Thus far retirement has been okay and if I can be honest I've not suffered much from the forced isolation other than not getting to have our daughter and her husband over for meals.
The lubricity and the clean out slots on the side are the main advantages of the function for sure - in my view and experience.
Stress does funny things to us doesn't it?
A couple times now, when being awakened in a tent by what proved to be a bear sniffing the tent, the first thing that I blank out on is where exactly the truck is!!!
One time the thing was circling the tent as buddy sawed wood enthusiastically.
We'd made camp in the dark and for the life of me I knew more or less where the truck was, but not exactly.
All I could think of was, "Buddy is absolutely going to come unglued/crap when I torch this off AND I am going to miss the stupid bear and flame up my truck"...
Of course I didn't sleep the rest of the night. Next morning Buddy is Mr. Sunshine of course, says how well he slept and that I look like I didn't......
I've only ever seen one altercation where a shotgun was involved. Four guys were after my brother outside a bar one night, a couple of guys came running up to me and said you better get out there and help your brother. I go out back and he is sitting on the hood of his truck, leaned back on the windshield, legs crossed, ol single barrel H&R 20 gauge on his lap. They were jacking their jaws, but none of em wanted to be the first one in. No Benelli M4 needed. 😁
The after market followers which I use can be seen in low light easily and there's the advantage of being able to feel if the magazine is empty with this style as well.
They make a few different styles and 2 color choices.
Dwayne
I am going to look into one of those.
Thanks for showing that.
Howdy Dwayne (& Tiny),
Forgive my lack of diplomacy Dwayne (Tiny will have full mag, so different), why the need ?
Boom, boom, boom = EMPTY !
Paul; Good afternoon to you good sir, I hope you and your fine family are well on this nice day.
The follower in question actually comes from your neck of the woods or closer to you than me Paul
Why is a fine question and I'll attempt to answer.
As a mechanic you likely know that Delrin has a built in lubricity, so if we have two objects which are similar materials - say steel on steel like the stock magazine tube and follower, they're going to be much more prone to friction than dissimilar materials, especially resins with built in lubricity.
Then there's the clean out slots one can see in the S&J follower - which not all Delrin followers have might I add and I happen to think it's a must.
When I mentioned dealing with a magazine malfunction at the beginnings of a social discussion with a local black bear, the cause was years and years of duck hunting, camping trips and general use that built up over time.
Now to be sure Paul I had cleaned the mag tube, but I hadn't disassembled it and when I did that - the Mossberg/Lakefield Mossberg ones use a chemical thread locker of some sort so a judicious amount of heat is required to get the Loc-Tite stuff to release - again you know that stuff - but it's there to deal with.
Anyway when I pulled it apart I could see that the situation would arise again and again because of the design and tolerances that need to be there. A slotted side Delrin follower solved that problem in spades.
Also and this is a pretty big also - the S&J follower has that big ridge and hole in the center, so one can feel it in total darkness.
It does not feel anything like either a shot shell or the stock follower - which feels too much like a shot shell in my opinion.
Hopefully all that made some sense and was useful.
All the best to you all Paul and stay well.
Dwayne
Just ordered one of these and a heavier magazine spring for my 870 Marine. The cheapest shipping option was more than the products!
This guy can be a little nerdy but he has some good info regardless. Only thing that scares me about stuff like your Winchester is I wouldn't know a fake from a tampon.
I doubt I could tell the difference either, but it looks menacing and seemed to be a solidly built weapon. I may have to look into a reproduction, if they're quality.
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