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So yeah, Cali sucks, there's no good places left here.

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The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)

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I can only speak to my experience with CA authorities and the quarantine...I've refused to comply and have been hassled by cops, including this morning as I was on a mt bike ride. In these parts, you have to wear a dang mask whenever outside (or so the local LEO says), etc. The funny thing is that I am very respectful to the cops when they stop me (and I am not black). I don't give them overt attitude but I ask for an explanation as to why they think I am violating the law. The cops usually start out with a speech about the power of the state in a crisis and then go on to lecture me.

I usually let them talk for as long as they want, then I take my business card out and hand it to the cop and ask him to google my name and the name of my law firm. It often will take a few tries, but I also explain that I enjoy litigating civil rights claims and set out the basics of 42 USC 1983 and 18 USC 242, and how following unconstitutional orders won't protect them from a court finding that they have deprived me of my civil rights. Usually, the cops want to argue about the issue of an emergency situation and civil rights and I'll let them blather on, but I always respond by pointing out that the Supreme Court has NEVER given states the right to deprive individuals of basic rights on an arbitrary basis, even during a crisis, and end with "did you know that if you're found to have violated 18 USC 242 you can go to jail for life? How are police treated in jail?"

It always has ended with the cop wagging a finger at me, telling me that I'll be able to go this time but next time I'll end up with a citation.

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Eliminate qualified immunity and you'll eliminate cops who act like they are above the law.
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Good for you guys. . .

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I need to copy the pertinent parts of your post, print it, and carry it with me to remember what to say to them. Life in the joint, eh copper? You'll enjoy that I'm sure!

Not black? Mmmmnn? But you use them as muscle, right??


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The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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Originally Posted by Valsdad
I need to copy the pertinent parts of your post, print it, and carry it with me to remember what to say to them. Life in the joint, eh copper? You'll enjoy that I'm sure!

Not black? Mmmmnn? But you use them as muscle, right??


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It's in the documentary from the good old days of Chicago...

What are you going to do about it, whitey?

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Eliminate qualified immunity and you'll eliminate cops who act like they are above the law.
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Modoc County Sheriff?

hmmm...

Wasn't he a member here or was he a DA?


Epstein didn't kill himself.

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Biden didn't win the election.
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Originally Posted by Remsen
Originally Posted by Valsdad
I need to copy the pertinent parts of your post, print it, and carry it with me to remember what to say to them. Life in the joint, eh copper? You'll enjoy that I'm sure!

Not black? Mmmmnn? But you use them as muscle, right??


Geno


It's in the documentary from the good old days of Chicago...

What are you going to do about it, whitey?


That's where I get all my info about these things.............

Movies!

Geno


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In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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Our county did to, but not like yours. They have decided to defy the governor’s orders, and remain locked down.


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As a Southerner, I can say, y'all need to secede. If the governor sends The Star Of The West to resupply Ft. Sumter, blow it out of the water!

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Not the Sheriff.

This guy is alright in my eyes (for LE that is).

When he was undersheriff he personally called me to clear up an issue about a couple of things on my CCW application...............on a Saturday morning. In our talk I found that he would like to get our regulation changed that only allows us to carry any of the three pistols listed on our permit. He said, I'm a gun owner too, and when I walk out the door off duty I never know which of mine I want to carry depending on dress, etc. Why should the general public be so constrained? He attends our fund raisers, like for our dog rescue group (they help out raising money for the K-9 program ) and a few gun/hunting related ones. But, that said, he's in an elective office and has to do a certain amount of handshaking etc.

To show you how different it is around here, I was pulled over last year for a license plate light being out. Officer I had met before, comes up, asks about weapons in the car, I tell him I'm a CCW holder and I am armed. He says "How about this, you keep your in your pocket, I'll keep mine holstered too". That probably don't happen in LA county.

Not sure about the guy rumored to have been the prior DA. Haven't met him.

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The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)

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Geno that’s fantastic. I have some friends in Modoc and that should make them very happy. I was supposed to go fly fishing up there this summer. Hopefully I still make it out there.

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You got stand for something, or you'll fall for anything!

Good on y'all!


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Go Modoc. Woohoo!


"Maybe we're all happy."

"Go to the sporting goods store. From the files, obtain form 4473. These will contain descriptions of weapons and lists of private ownership."
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You Californians may as well be living in China.

Best of luck.


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Why don’t you just drive dry the State capital building and flip them the bird.

That’ll show them.

You Freedom radicals.....


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Next time you fill up.....tell the attendant you don’t want any of that $3.50 gas to go towards funding the machine.

That will scare the tar out of the big government rulers out there.

You extremist radicals.....


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Originally Posted by Remsen
Originally Posted by Valsdad
I need to copy the pertinent parts of your post, print it, and carry it with me to remember what to say to them. Life in the joint, eh copper? You'll enjoy that I'm sure!

Not black? Mmmmnn? But you use them as muscle, right??


Geno


It's in the documentary from the good old days of Chicago...

What are you going to do about it, whitey?


I hate Illinois Nazis.


I am MAGA.
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If the California Freedom Fighters run into trouble, I am all in for air-dropping some essential survival supplies.

Tattoo ink
Men’s Capri jeans
Sandals
Face masks that work with a man bun
Bulk packed tofu


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