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And lots of real states attorneys as well as various other defense attorneys in all the various articles and newscasts all say that the victim committed criminal trespass only... Race-baiting propagandists are misleading the public on purpose, for their own profit and motives. You're a Covtard, so you'll believe that over the truth, as is your habit. The GA state's attorney for the county where this occurred, followed GA law and decided it was a burglary, and therefore the armed citizens had the right under GA law to attempt to stop a fleeing felon. And hence..... why its now in the media... because it was put to bed, but the surfaced video proves otherwise... showing that DA was a racist bigot who’s friends with Bubba... proving your a premium retarded dinkus... The GA state's attorney reviewed the same videos, and the full videos, not the edited versions that have been released, prior to reaching the conclusion no laws had been broken. The videos that have been released, were released because the conclusion had been reached that no laws had been broken. To try and reopen what was closed case, by race-baiting, and to improperly try and sway any possible jury that would try these white men. And lots of real states attorneys as well as various other defense attorneys in all the various articles and newscasts all say that the victim committed criminal trespass only... Race-baiting propagandists are misleading the public on purpose, for their own profit and motives. You're a Covtard, so you'll believe that over the truth, as is your habit. The GA state's attorney for the county where this occurred, followed GA law and decided it was a burglary, and therefore the armed citizens had the right under GA law to attempt to stop a fleeing felon. And hence..... why its now in the media... because it was put to bed, but the surfaced video proves otherwise... showing that DA was a racist bigot who’s friends with Bubba... proving your a premium retarded dinkus... The GA state's attorney reviewed the same videos, and the full videos, not the edited versions that have been released, prior to reaching the conclusion no laws had been broken. The videos that have been released, were released because the conclusion had been reached that no laws had been broken. To try and reopen what was closed case, by race-baiting, and to improperly try and sway any possible jury that would try these white men. Your OPINION isnt shared by the GBI, the Judge who set bail, nor the Federal Investigators now looking into this.... to which Im thinking that DA is going to get the axe and some charges too....
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So are burglaries now down in that hood or what? No reported burglaries in that neighborhood per the police. Only a stolen, loaded gun, from dumber jr’s unlocked vehicle.... model gun owner huh? Pretty sure GA law hasn't changed in the last 15 minutes. Here's your opportunity ta be a hero, and post a link to the "real" GA burglary statute you were bullshittin everbody about. Numb nuts, in the cited case just above...
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Yes. By his actions in moving and looking around for something to steal. Its only classed as burglary if you can prove beyond reasonable doubt that he had 'intent' to commit robbery before entering the structure.
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https://casetext.com/case/howard-v-state-924 Howard v. State, 227 Ga. App. 5, 8 (Ga. Ct. App. 1997) (“(b) "A person commits the offense of burglary when, without authority and with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein, he enters or remains within the dwelling house of another. . . ." OCGA § 16-7-1 (a). Here, the State proved that Ellison's dwelling was entered without her permission or authority. Brinson v. State, 208 Ga. App. 556, 557 (3), 558 ( 430 S.E.2d 875). The presence of valuables, such as Ellison's television, is sufficient to support an inference of defendant's intent to steal. Miller v. State, 208 Ga. App. 547 (1) ( 430 S.E.2d 873). In the case sub judice, the evidence was sufficient to authorize the jury's verdict that defendant is guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt, of burglary as alleged in the indictment.”) So year old state case. Besides, a TV sure doesn't sound like the 2x4's being discussed above. You mean a 23 year old case in the state where the events occurred. VS. a SCOTUS decision from last year. Doesn’t matter when the SCOTUS case was from if it is immaterial to the issues in this case...which it is.
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So are burglaries now down in that hood or what? No reported burglaries in that neighborhood per the police. Only a stolen, loaded gun, from dumber jr’s unlocked vehicle.... model gun owner huh? Pretty sure GA law hasn't changed in the last 15 minutes. Here's your opportunity ta be a hero, and post a link to the "real" GA burglary statute you were bullshittin everbody about. Numb nuts, in the cited case just above... Joebob's post cited a case that contains the same language as the two burglary statutes previously posted, not the bullshit you tried ta throw out. Forcible entry and posted? LOL Here's your chance, hero. Post the link to the "official" GA statute site, and the "real" burglary statute.
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Yes. By his actions in moving and looking around for something to steal. Its only classed as burglary if you can prove beyond reasonable doubt that he had 'intent' to commit robbery before entering the structure. Not true.
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So are burglaries now down in that hood or what? No reported burglaries in that neighborhood per the police. Only a stolen, loaded gun, from dumber jr’s unlocked vehicle.... model gun owner huh? Pretty sure GA law hasn't changed in the last 15 minutes. Here's your opportunity ta be a hero, and post a link to the "real" GA burglary statute you were bullshittin everbody about. Numb nuts, in the cited case just above... Joebob's post cited a case that contains the same language as the two burglary statutes previously posted, not the bullshit you tried ta throw out. Forcible entry and posted? LOL Here's your chance, hero. Post the link to the "official" GA statute site, and the "real" burglary statute. Callnumbnuts and Ejp only know bull schiett.
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Yes. By his actions in moving and looking around for something to steal. Its only classed as burglary if you can prove beyond reasonable doubt that he had 'intent' to commit robbery before entering the structure. Not true. Hey! you're poachin *my* moron. Go find your own.
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Yes. By his actions in moving and looking around for something to steal. Its only classed as burglary if you can prove beyond reasonable doubt that he had 'intent' to commit robbery before entering the structure. Not true. True- it's not true. Starman is FOS.
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Yes. By his actions in moving and looking around for something to steal. Its only classed as burglary if you can prove beyond reasonable doubt that he had 'intent' to commit robbery before entering the structure. Not true. Hey! you're poachin *my* moron. Go find your own. Kool it Fu, theres enough maroons on here for you an me an Joe Bob too. 
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JoeBob,
Cite your source to your claim that $2500 in tackle
was robbed from the structure in question.
Statements from Mr English say he has never
been robbed, but alas, non-fiction attorneys like
You seem to know better... LOL.
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Straman dreams of forcible entry in his star, man.
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By the way, it’s now coming out that Travis (that’s the shooter) may have been the one to make the initial 911 call.
If that’s the case, then he directly witnessed the potential felony and would have the right to make a citizen’s arrest and stop him from fleeing.
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https://casetext.com/case/howard-v-state-924 Howard v. State, 227 Ga. App. 5, 8 (Ga. Ct. App. 1997) (“(b) "A person commits the offense of burglary when, without authority and with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein, he enters or remains within the dwelling house of another. . . ." OCGA § 16-7-1 (a). Here, the State proved that Ellison's dwelling was entered without her permission or authority. Brinson v. State, 208 Ga. App. 556, 557 (3), 558 ( 430 S.E.2d 875). The presence of valuables, such as Ellison's television, is sufficient to support an inference of defendant's intent to steal. Miller v. State, 208 Ga. App. 547 (1) ( 430 S.E.2d 873). In the case sub judice, the evidence was sufficient to authorize the jury's verdict that defendant is guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt, of burglary as alleged in the indictment.”) So year old state case. Besides, a TV sure doesn't sound like the 2x4's being discussed above. You mean a 23 year old case in the state where the events occurred. VS. a SCOTUS decision from last year. Doesn’t matter when the SCOTUS case was from if it is immaterial to the issues in this case...which it is. No, it's not. It also explains the more details explanation of a later Georgia case you ignored: And this is an actual Georgia Supreme Court Case, not an appellate case like you quoted. . “Generally speaking, in a burglary trial a jury must, of necessity, find intent to commit a felony on the basis of circumstantial evidence.” Jackson v. State, 270 Ga. 494, 496 (1) (512 SE2d 241) (1999). We have long recognized that intent may be inferred from the presence of valuables inside the place the defendant sought to access. Steadman v. State, 81 Ga. 736, 736 (2) (8 SE 420) (1888); accord Long v. State, 307 Ga. App. 669, 671 (1) (705 SE2d 889) (2011) (holding that a jury may infer that a defendant intended to commit theft based on the presence of valuables inside the premises, when the jury concludes that there is no other apparent or credible motive for the defendant's unauthorized entry). The jury is thus allowed, but not required, to infer an ultimate fact from proof of a basic fact. See Pollard v. State, 249 Ga. 21, 22 (2) (287 SE2d 189) (1982). “It places no burden on the defendant; it merely advises and guides the jury as to what conclusions they might draw from circumstantial evidence presented at trial.” Id. The fact that the jury is permitted to exercise a permissive inference of intent to steal when deciding a burglary charge does not mean that the defendant has any obligation to testify or otherwise contest that inference. But it also does not mean that another charge must be offered even where there is no evidence to support it.
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So are burglaries now down in that hood or what? No reported burglaries in that neighborhood per the police. Only a stolen, loaded gun, from dumber jr’s unlocked vehicle.... model gun owner huh? Pretty sure GA law hasn't changed in the last 15 minutes. Here's your opportunity ta be a hero, and post a link to the "real" GA burglary statute you were bullshittin everbody about. Numb nuts, in the cited case just above... Joebob's post cited a case that contains the same language as the two burglary statutes previously posted, not the bullshit you tried ta throw out. Forcible entry and posted? LOL Here's your chance, hero. Post the link to the "official" GA statute site, and the "real" burglary statute. There you go buddy... they even offer transportation it seems... I can find you reading and comprehension classes as well? Just let me know...
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By the way, it’s now coming out that Travis (that’s the shooter) may have been the one to make the initial 911 call.
If that’s the case, then he directly witnessed the potential felony and would have the right to make a citizen’s arrest and stop him from fleeing. Do you got a source for that?
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Yes. By his actions in moving and looking around for something to steal. Its only classed as burglary if you can prove beyond reasonable doubt that he had 'intent' to commit robbery before entering the structure. Not true. Proving intent is a required element of burglary in GA, and the standard in criminal cases is beyond a reasonable doubt. But to be fair, the standards for probable cause are lower.
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By the way, it’s now coming out that Travis (that’s the shooter) may have been the one to make the initial 911 call.
If that’s the case, then he directly witnessed the potential felony and would have the right to make a citizen’s arrest and stop him from fleeing. Do you got a source for that? The videos clearly prove he couldnt have witnessed it.... you can see them get in their vehicle and drive by... they werent in the line of sight.
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"IMHO they need to clean up their own act before pointing fingers at others.
Yet every thug that gets blasted is pushed for Sainthood." Racist.
He was saving up money from stuff no one wanted in order to go to brain surgeon school. Sorry whites wouldn't pay his way. Doc, Every group ultimately fractionates down to the individual. This is not a question of black vs. white, it's a question of right vs. wrong. You know Jag is not a real doc, right?
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JoeBob,
Cite your source to your claim that $2500 in tackle
was robbed from the structure in question.
Statements from Mr English say he has never
been robbed, but alas, non-fiction attorneys like
You seem to know better... LOL.
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