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I do not see it as my responsibility to enter into an armed confrontation with an empty handed man who walked through an open house under construction. Simply because when I think about these things I quickly recognize that they can go as they did in this case. How could they have known in advance that he was unarmed? I have a pistol that's so small it fits on a belt buckle. We all know that when you are armed, there is still a chance that you are going to be attacked. However, that chance is lower than if you are unarmed.
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Nobody. But none of us can imagine why the dead guy decided to commit suicide either. I can imagine what it would be like to be confronted by two pieces of human schidt, getting away, then having them come back and accost me with a shotgun. Fight or flight would kick in. Would I run fearing I would be shot in the back, fold and fear I may be killed yet, or try to disarm those accosting me? Heck, I got called a pussy for calling out shameful racist language, but I wouldn't be a pussy if I folded in the face of aggression. Interesting world here in THT. It sure is confusing knowing when to be a badass.
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I hope you aren't suggesting I walk around a black neighborhood.
It's not about color. It's about self-policing. BS. You were going to suggest a minority neighborhood. BTW, you are in fantasy land if you think there's a neighborhood in the US that isn't policed by LE. Oh I get it. You’ve been sheltered your whole life. That’s why you’re so stupid.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Nobody. But none of us can imagine why the dead guy decided to commit suicide either. That's why prudent men wait to hear facts. Instead of cackling like a Tyrone about schit they have no knowledge of. Like self-policed neighborhoods? Yes. That is also something you have no knowledge of.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I do not see it as my responsibility to enter into an armed confrontation with an empty handed man who walked through an open house under construction. Simply because when I think about these things I quickly recognize that they can go as they did in this case. How could they have known in advance that he was unarmed? I have a pistol that's so small it fits on a belt buckle. We all know that when you are armed, there is still a chance that you are going to be attacked. However, that chance is lower than if you are unarmed. If ever there were a case against confronting an empty handed man thought to be the one who was guilty of walking through an open house under construction, the fact that he may be armed would pretty much seal the deal for me.
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Nobody. But none of us can imagine why the dead guy decided to commit suicide either. That's why prudent men wait to hear facts. Instead of cackling like a Tyrone about schit they have no knowledge of. Like self-policed neighborhoods? Yes. That is also something you have no knowledge of. Name the city & neighborhood.
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LOL
You stupid pampered fugk.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Nobody. But none of us can imagine why the dead guy decided to commit suicide either. I can imagine what it would be like to be confronted by two pieces of human schidt, getting away, then having them come back and accost me with a shotgun. Fight or flight would kick in. Would I run fearing I would be shot in the back, fold and fear I may be killed yet, or try to disarm those accosting me? Heck, I got called a pussy for calling out shameful racist language, but I wouldn't be a pussy if I folded in the face of aggression. Interesting world here in THT. It sure is confusing knowing when to be a badass. Why do you call them pieces of schit? Especially while giving the jogger a pass?
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Nobody. But none of us can imagine why the dead guy decided to commit suicide either. I can imagine what it would be like to be confronted by two pieces of human schidt, getting away, then having them come back and accost me with a shotgun. Fight or flight would kick in. Would I run fearing I would be shot in the back, fold and fear I may be killed yet, or try to disarm those accosting me? Heck, I got called a pussy for calling out shameful racist language, but I wouldn't be a pussy if I folded in the face of aggression. Interesting world here in THT. It sure is confusing knowing when to be a badass. Why do you call them pieces of schit? Especially while giving the jogger a pass? Dey White.
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Your missing the obvious here... Arbery isnt on trial.... He most certainly will be on trial by the criminal defense. His aggressive actions toward the shooter will have to be the basis of defense. So, while Arbery won't be on trial his actions certainly will be. To me it seems he was justified in attempting to disarm the man with a gun, but there is so much not known right now. The video seems to indicate an aggravated assault with a firearm. You can't outrun a load from a shotgun. Would a reasonable man have done what the two white men did? Would a reasonable man have tried to defend himself and disarm an attacker. Yes, Arbery's actions will be on trial.
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You stupid pampered fugk. I knew you'd pussy out on the one, dumb fah uck. Typical for you, every time you paint yourself into a corner you resort to a chucklehead response in an attempt to hide your ignorance.
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Nobody. But none of us can imagine why the dead guy decided to commit suicide either. I can imagine what it would be like to be confronted by two pieces of human schidt, getting away, then having them come back and accost me with a shotgun. Fight or flight would kick in. Would I run fearing I would be shot in the back, fold and fear I may be killed yet, or try to disarm those accosting me? Heck, I got called a pussy for calling out shameful racist language, but I wouldn't be a pussy if I folded in the face of aggression. Interesting world here in THT. It sure is confusing knowing when to be a badass. Bad tactic, he could only confront kne leaving the other free to fire. Simply stopping and talking would have been a more effective response
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Nobody. But none of us can imagine why the dead guy decided to commit suicide either. I can imagine what it would be like to be confronted by two pieces of human schidt, getting away, then having them come back and accost me with a shotgun. Fight or flight would kick in. Would I run fearing I would be shot in the back, fold and fear I may be killed yet, or try to disarm those accosting me? Heck, I got called a pussy for calling out shameful racist language, but I wouldn't be a pussy if I folded in the face of aggression. Interesting world here in THT. It sure is confusing knowing when to be a badass. Why do you call them pieces of schit? Especially while giving the jogger a pass? I can tell by looking at them and by their actions they are POS's. In which post did I give the jogger a pass.? He may have been a POS too, but that coupled with the crime of walking through an empty house under construction isn't a capital offense.
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I do not see it as my responsibility to enter into an armed confrontation with an empty handed man who walked through an open house under construction. Simply because when I think about these things I quickly recognize that they can go as they did in this case. Who among us wants to be in the killer's shoes? Like most debates here, many people see things as black or white and argue those points ad nauseam. But the world is often very GRAY. A few here suggest the jogger was the aggressor, and the 2 white men were well within their rights, because they suspected (or even saw) the jogger peek into a house. That sets the premise, that I should meet every car that doesn't use a blinker to turn into my cul-de-sac, with a shotgun in the face. Neighbor didn't buckle up before backing out of their driveway? Shotgun to the face. We weird ass next door neighbor stepping onto my property to look into my garbage can? Shotgun to the face. Of course, everyone here will agree those are ridiculous scenarios. So it appears there ARE shades of gray in this argument. My view is, self policing with firearms involved should be the exception for only the most dire of circumstances, not the norm. Because bottom line, if you pull a firearm out without the express intent of immediately protecting your life or the life of your family, you've potentially crossed into a place where your freedom, and your financial future is dependent on some gun-hating libtard sitting on a jury, stewing about how you have a gun. Even if you were in the right. So no, I will not risk even the slightest chance of jail time or civil suite for some petty crime, like these 2 dumbfuggs did. And the jogger was stupid as chit for what he did, too. Clusterfugg all the way around.
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Your missing the obvious here... Arbery isnt on trial.... He most certainly will be on trial by the criminal defense. His aggressive actions toward the shooter will have to be the basis of defense. So, while Arbery won't be on trial his actions certainly will be. To me it seems he was justified in attempting to disarm the man with a gun, but there is so much not known right now. The video seems to indicate an aggravated assault with a firearm. You can't outrun a load from a shotgun. Would a reasonable man have done what the two white men did? Would a reasonable man have tried to defend himself and disarm an attacker. Yes, Arbery's actions will be on trial. Aggressive or defensive actions against the killer?
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I do not see it as my responsibility to enter into an armed confrontation with an empty handed man who walked through an open house under construction. Simply because when I think about these things I quickly recognize that they can go as they did in this case. Who among us wants to be in the killer's shoes? Like most debates here, many people see things as black or white and argue those points ad nauseam. But the world is often very GRAY. A few here suggest the jogger was the aggressor, and the 2 white men were well within their rights, because they suspected (or even saw) the jogger peek into a house. That sets the premise, that I should meet every car that doesn't use a blinker to turn into my cul-de-sac, with a shotgun in the face. Neighbor didn't buckle up before backing out of their driveway? Shotgun to the face. We weird ass next door neighbor stepping onto my property to look into my garbage can? Shotgun to the face. Of course, everyone here will agree those are ridiculous scenarios. So it appears there ARE shades of gray in this argument. My view is, self policing with firearms involved should be the exception for only the most dire of circumstances, not the norm. Because bottom line, if you pull a firearm out without the express intent of immediately protecting your life or the life of your family, you've potentially crossed into a place where your freedom, and your financial future is dependent on some gun-hating libtard sitting on a jury, stewing about how you have a gun. Even if you were in the right. So no, I will not risk even the slightest chance of jail time or civil suite for some petty crime, like these 2 dumbfuggs did. And the jogger was stupid as chit for what he did, too. Clusterfugg all the way around. That is entirely to goddam reasonable of a comment for this schidtshow.
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Your missing the obvious here... Arbery isnt on trial.... He most certainly will be on trial by the criminal defense. His aggressive actions toward the shooter will have to be the basis of defense. So, while Arbery won't be on trial his actions certainly will be. To me it seems he was justified in attempting to disarm the man with a gun, but there is so much not known right now. The video seems to indicate an aggravated assault with a firearm. You can't outrun a load from a shotgun. Would a reasonable man have done what the two white men did? Would a reasonable man have tried to defend himself and disarm an attacker. Yes, Arbery's actions will be on trial. Aggressive or defensive actions against the killer? He was aggressively defending himself is the way it looks to me, but we'll see how the legal system and Georgia law see it.
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I do not see it as my responsibility to enter into an armed confrontation with an empty handed man who walked through an open house under construction. Simply because when I think about these things I quickly recognize that they can go as they did in this case. Who among us wants to be in the killer's shoes? Like most debates here, many people see things as black or white and argue those points ad nauseam. But the world is often very GRAY. A few here suggest the jogger was the aggressor, and the 2 white men were well within their rights, because they suspected (or even saw) the jogger peek into a house. That sets the premise, that I should meet every car that doesn't use a blinker to turn into my cul-de-sac, with a shotgun in the face. Neighbor didn't buckle up before backing out of their driveway? Shotgun to the face. We weird ass next door neighbor stepping onto my property to look into my garbage can? Shotgun to the face. Of course, everyone here will agree those are ridiculous scenarios. So it appears there ARE shades of gray in this argument. My view is, self policing with firearms involved should be the exception for only the most dire of circumstances, not the norm. Because bottom line, if you pull a firearm out without the express intent of immediately protecting your life or the life of your family, you've potentially crossed into a place where your freedom, and your financial future is dependent on some gun-hating libtard sitting on a jury, stewing about how you have a gun. Even if you were in the right. So no, I will not risk even the slightest chance of jail time or civil suite for some petty crime, like these 2 dumbfuggs did. And the jogger was stupid as chit for what he did, too. Clusterfugg all the way around. Good post.
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You stupid pampered fugk. I knew you'd pussy out on the one, dumb fah uck. Typical for you, every time you paint yourself into a corner you resort to a chucklehead response in an attempt to hide your ignorance. I can't stop laughing... You're from the south, aren't you? Oh, and just to answer your incredibly stupid fugking question, take a stroll through Englewood sometime. It's in Chicago. Tell one of those young entrepreneur's on the street corner that you are going to call the police. When you get done with that eye opening experience, I got about 150 more I can give you. Take video. LMFAO
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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You stupid pampered fugk. I knew you'd pussy out on the one, dumb fah uck. Typical for you, every time you paint yourself into a corner you resort to a chucklehead response in an attempt to hide your ignorance. You're from the south, aren't you? You are a geographist.
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