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Then...your old warm up becomes your new work out.


Awful, terrible, truth!

I creak, moan, groan, and bitch, but consider myself lucky to be in good enough shape to get up and do most things (poorly, but that has nothing to do with age).

I don't know this to be true, and I do know there are varying schools of thought, but I don't think carbs are the devil. I think they can be to some people. My carb intake is fairly high. My blood numbers, BP, heart rate, fitness and appearance are good.

While good genes may set the "mould/mold". there are many drugs today that change genetic expression, especially on the RNA side. Hormones, any of the anti-immune type drugs, for arthritis, anti-cancer etc. fit into this category.

Day to day..

I know better than to argue with you, but I will say that blood sugar swings (carb fueled) are a big driver in the desire to snack. Chicken, egg?

Where are you getting these figures?

HGH has a pretty narrow application when it comes to fitness. It does virtually nothing for endurance athletes, and very little for strength sports that isn’t done better by something else. For power lifters and bodybuilders who want muscle mass at any cost, it has some uses. Or the extreme positions in football like linemen.

Regardless 100 iu of human grade HGH can be had for $250. A pretty high mass building dose is ~3 iu per day, so $250 a month.

Injectable T is even lower. A 10ml vial of Sustanon 500 is around $120. 500mg / week is a big dose, which works out to about $50 / month.

I’ve no idea what Botox costs.

As long as the hydraulics work...

As long as the hydraulics work...

from a medical point of view the drug testing knowledge the body builders have given to the world, by experimenting on their own bodies, without the need to go thru the regular FDA protocols, is worth its weight (pun intended) in gold.

I'm talking about the benefits from these drugs that can be used by anyone who can afford it thru their local MD'

a testosterone/progesterone/estrogen cream for a female for a month can run around $120 , and you only thought this stuff was for males.


Not talking about the shet body builders use, talking top grade prescription pharmaceuticals.

your talking growth hormone releasing factor, Sermoralin, not Novartis injectable.

You got that right. But now I got both years and miles.

the answer to the chicken/egg question is called parthenogenesis

the answer the to the hunger is a hormone Ghrelin

I spent 25 years in the military and was 50 years old when I retired. On my last PFT 2 months before retiring I did 88 pushups in 2 minutes, 110 situps in 2 minutes and did a 1.5 mile run in 9:18 and that was with 2 scews and a pin in my right ankle. That was better than a lot of the younger guys. When I retired from active duty I began teaching high school. Until this COVID mess hit I was in the gym every afternoon and doing a 5 mile walk every day. I still do the walk until I can get back in the gym. I am 57 right now and weigh within 12 lbs of what I weighed when I graduated from high school in 1980. Growing old is something you have no control over but growing fat and out of shape you can control. The question is whether you want to or not.

No, I don’t mean Sermorelin, I mean the actual HGH Somatropin. It isn’t produced by Novartis but I don’t see how that is relevant.

People enjoy paying doctors for things they can do themselves I’m sure, but they choose to do that.

Yes sir! It may be hard not to sometimes, but quitting is a sure fire way to an early grave!

I’m 76, and not as good as I once was.............hell, I’m not even as good once as I once was!

I believe it depends where the carbs come from. We here at home have cut back on breads, and pasta's and such, and sugar. Carbs from vegetables are good IMHO, and again IMHO you need some carbs and calories for energy. I live by the rule of only consuming the calories I need. I used to do so to the point of starving myself, but that is not good, so any more I really just try to pace myself a little better. Many days I tend to graze all day rather than eat a big meal.

What is old anyway?
I work at it, get cardio everyday, get on aleast one colt everyday and run it thru the paces. I can still shoe a couple a day at 62. Pretty creaky in the morning.

All very true from what I've read, but my goal is to not lay around on my butt or eat myself into poor health so that I have to rely on drugs to live the life I desire. I hope I succeed

I was a fanatic into my late twenties, then I discovered motorcycles 🙄

Picked it up again age 56, when I started preparing to bicycle to New York. Hard to call that training, bicycles are a pretty gentle form of exercise, basically all I did was ride for longer and longer amounts of time with the Bike weighed down with about 50 pounds of gear.

Since then I’ve tried to use bicycles as a substitute for a vehicle where possible, keeps me in shape and it’s not near as boring as other forms of exercise. Bicycling is a godsend but it’s a pretty limited form of exercise, which is why it’s pretty easy to get good at it.

It really helped when they opened up a gym a few miles away that I could incorporate on a route to work in the morning.

One thing I had been neglecting though was hiking, and by that I mean traversing steep and broken terrain. Since this lock down I’ve been incorporating a couple hours of that a few days a week. A pretty good workout for back, knees, shins and ankles. And also neglected foot-eye coordination, when I started I was actually using a staff to help on the downhill parts, no longer needed.

Plus there’s a part I have to negotiate, up and down, clambering on hands and knees, also a forgotten skill.

I’d guess 90% of it is keeping active. I have no desire for supplements unless maybe glucosamine, don’t really care what my T is. I do have a sense that, when ya get into your 60’s, once it’s gone it ain’t coming back. Trying to slow that rate of loss here.