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http://angusreid.org/assault-weapons-ban/"Endorsement for the change transcends political and regional divides, although a slight majority of Canada’s current gun owners oppose it (55%)." I find it troubling that 45% of current firearm owners are in support of the May 1 ban. Goes back to an earlier post I made in this thread, where some hunters I conversed with couldn't care less, as they didn't have any of the firearms in the list.
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http://angusreid.org/assault-weapons-ban/"Endorsement for the change transcends political and regional divides, although a slight majority of Canada’s current gun owners oppose it (55%)." I find it troubling that 45% of current firearm owners are in support of the May 1 ban. Goes back to an earlier post I made in this thread, where some hunters I conversed with couldn't care less, as they didn't have any of the firearms in the list. I find this disturbing. Then when you think about it they are probably the same people who go out and shoot bottles and leave garbage around making themselves look like shooters.
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I have calmed down somewhat. Sorry to my Eastern brothers for my earlier post. It isn't your fault how your neighbors voted just as is it isn't my fault how mine did and so I think Western Separatism will never fly. I can't stand Trudeau or his Daddy and I am appalled that we would elect such a man. However, my own neighbors voted for him here in the Yukon and we have the hilariously inept Larry Bagnell as our "representative". If there is an answer it will be through staying calm and building our coalition. Turning on one another will not help. A place to start might be in convincing our own 45% that the Order In Council ban is antidemocratic and bodes ill for all of us whether we are hurt by this particular list or not.
For myself I will help work to ensure that our elected "REP" Larry get's defeated on this one. The next List could be even worse if there is no cost to this one. Trudeau worked a bit cleverly to create a wedge issue withboth the appearance of action for Leftists and enough softening measures to try and divide us. Lets make sure that doesn't happen. I regret Lumping the East together, It isn't true. We all have ideological brothers and sisters in every part of the country.
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Liberals Goals are TOTAL Gun Confiscation. Next will be ALL Mandatory Vaccines. There will be no need for a Gas Chamber.You will get a supposedly safe Vaccine that will end your life.
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Hey guys, I'm 170km from the Manitoba border, can I join you guys !
Actually, it would make great sense for Manitoba to "inherit" Northwest Ontario.
We are so far distant, both geographically & politically, from Southern Ontario.
Please !
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Fair exchange. NW ON to MB in exchange for Loony Bin Winterpeg transplanted to their ideological GTA kindred.
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I have calmed down somewhat. Sorry to my Eastern brothers for my earlier post. It isn't your fault how your neighbors voted just as is it isn't my fault how mine did and so I think Western Separatism will never fly. I can't stand Trudeau or his Daddy and I am appalled that we would elect such a man. However, my own neighbors voted for him here in the Yukon and we have the hilariously inept Larry Bagnell as our "representative". If there is an answer it will be through staying calm and building our coalition. Turning on one another will not help. A place to start might be in convincing our own 45% that the Order In Council ban is antidemocratic and bodes ill for all of us whether we are hurt by this particular list or not.
For myself I will help work to ensure that our elected "REP" Larry get's defeated on this one. The next List could be even worse if there is no cost to this one. Trudeau worked a bit cleverly to create a wedge issue withboth the appearance of action for Leftists and enough softening measures to try and divide us. Lets make sure that doesn't happen. I regret Lumping the East together, It isn't true. We all have ideological brothers and sisters in every part of the country. As was mentioned early on in this thread, like-minded people are welcome to move west. But the numbers don't lie. Of course not every individual that lives east of Manitoba is a leftist, gun-banning Liberal supporter, but the generalization is true that there exists a broad-based geographical divide of cultural values. Just look at the map of the previous federal election results. To clarify the point we can look at a more dramatic example: we also have ideological brothers and sisters in the Middle East, but that doesn't mean that there isn't a generalized difference in the cultural values of the two locations. Ultimately, there are people with similar ideologies in all locations on the globe, but I think that division of governance and national separation works best when divided by ideological and cultural values on a general scale.
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While I’m not that familiar with the details of your political struggles, about 95% of what has been said here in this thread is also true of us just south of all of you.
What “liberalism” results in politically is, paradoxically, contrary to the usual, common meaning of the word. Liberals aren’t content to just live their lives as defined by their world view; they inevitably seek to impose it on those who aren’t “liberal”. The most extreme and mediocre liberals, when opportunity knocks (the Corona pandemic), become enthralled with power and control — channeling fascism — like Michigan’s governor Whitmer.
They see people as a collective to be dictated to and controlled which calls for expansive government, regulations and policies; they do not see the masses as individuals with inherent rights as true conservatism does. Liberals always make democracies, republics, or any form of representative government less so.
To my point, yes, the electoral college was envisioned by our framers (for a republic form of government) to give the states an equitable voice to the election of the president and vice-president of the US. While Canadian conservatives might argue for your own, true to form, many liberals here would like to abolish ours for the very reason it was formed — an equitable voice.
I love the expansive beauty of your nation, and of course, the outdoor exploits possible; I can’t envision a better nation to be neighbors with. I wish the wind at your back in all your efforts to retain your rights and freedoms.
My apologies for landing in a Canadian thread about Canadian problems and bringing my soapbox over.
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Hey guys, I'm 170km from the Manitoba border, can I join you guys !
Moving the Ontario border back to about Nipigon is what I've heard from so many people between Kenora and T Bay. Just think, another open water shipping port for grain and oil.
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This I don’t think is an east-west thing-or else the west starts along ways east of Nipigon. What it is —is an Urban-Rural divide
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This I don’t think is an east-west thing-or else the west starts along ways east of Nipigon. What it is —is an Urban-Rural divide Which shows how shallow minded Urban dwellers are, FFS, its a big country with alot of remote area's that are not made of concrete and steel.
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where's Lowell Green when you need 'im
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