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Is see Sam Olson talked about drilling the wheat. I think I've read the wheat can be seeded with an air drill, and with any wide rig a GPS helps to drive right.
How do you seed wheat? And fertilizer, and herbicides applied?
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Back in the day.. IH 6200, 2x12’s.
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The only wheat I have ever raised was in 86, endgate seeder, we windrowed it, and chopped the mix for silage. It was a cover crop.
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I think Sam grows a different variety (ours is hard red winter wheat?) than my part of the country. Here it is planted after corn in the fall and harvested late june-ish. Then the soybeans go in, and after those are harvested the field is fallow until sprayed and planted with corn... For those that actually attempt to rotate crops.
Pretty sure Sam has Spring wheat of some sort and it takes the entire growing season.
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Mostly hard red spring wheat up north . Better quality. Most guys here are running 40 to 60 ft air seeders. Fertilizers go down at the same time as seed. Mostly andhydrous ammonia because it’s cheapest. Poor years 20 bushel to the acre and a great year 70 bu. Average problably 45 now. Ed k
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Dark northern spring wheat.
Seeded at 60 pounds or so. Dry fertilizer down with the seed. 70 to 100 pounds of that.
We have a 50 foot air seeder. 12 inch spacing.
Seed about an inch deep.
An excellent yeild here is 40 bushels. Typically 30 to 35.
Have cut a lot of 5 and 10 bushel crops.
We raise some of the highest quality wheat in the world....and they dock the piss out of us for the pleasure!
10 to 12 inches of moisture a year is why we have quality. They just won't pay for it.
Seeded in April May....cut in August September.
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What fertilizer, herbicides?
Back when we would watch over the air TV in Wabigoon, the CBC would run bonspiels from western Canada. The walls would advertises weed sprays I'd never heard of, I'd bought from the same companies, but different products.
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Pre plant you rely on Roundup or cultivation.
If you plant early you have to then spray for weeds in crop. LV6 or Banvil.
Widematch if all your organic neighbors raise lots of Canada thistle. Which they do.
Discover for wild oats, Axial for pigeon grass.
Various fungicides sometimes.
A LOT of that can be avoided if you seed a little later. Yes yeild suffers some. But profit potential is the same.
Zero. Better than under zero.
A lot of 11-52 gets used. Used to be 18-46
We use a 20-17-5-5 dry.
11-52 for legumes.
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Wheat is about ready to combine down here.
Is it the same kind you are planting? They plant this in October and November. It comes up, but doesn’t grow much until March.
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We call that winter wheat. It is planted in Sept Oct and then cut in July August.
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I don't know a lot about wheat, but there is hard wheat, soft wheat, cake flour wheat, and more. It's %105 of corn to feed cattle, hotter than corn, it can burn up a bovine liver.
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Doctor Norman Borlaug, with help invented shorter wheat that can use more nitrogen without lodging.
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The deer in Coleman County sure liked the winter wheat.
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We plant soft red winter here. My farmers just finished cutting theirs this week.
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If you raise all the corn that you do, why are you asking about how to plant wheat? Attention seeking?
Are you not following crop rotation? Do you raise corn in the same dirt every season?
The same farmers here that raise corn, also raise soybeans and winter wheat.
Corn, drilled in April- combined in late Sept Sept- Jan lays fallow Jan, drilled for wheat- combined in early June
June crew comes in ASAP usually next day and drills the short crop of soybeans, combined them early October
So to recap: corn-wheat-soybeans, lather rinse repeat
And by the way they plow it like a man, none of that wussy no-till BS
Round up ready corn and beans here
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They grow wheat here just fine with 49 inches of annual rainfall.
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Looks prosperous.
Yes, I am sure they grow wheat just fine. Thats the fugging problem!
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If you raise all the corn that you do, why are you asking about how to plant wheat? Attention seeking?
Are you not following crop rotation? Do you raise corn in the same dirt every season?
The same farmers here that raise corn, also raise soybeans and winter wheat.
Corn, drilled in April- combined in late Sept Sept- Jan lays fallow Jan, drilled for wheat- combined in early June
June crew comes in ASAP usually next day and drills the short crop of soybeans, combined them early October
So to recap: corn-wheat-soybeans, lather rinse repeat
And by the way they plow it like a man, none of that wussy no-till BS
Round up ready corn and beans here
when do they fit in arry-head huntin' ?
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North Dakota and Montana raise the best quality wheat and durum and barley in the U.S. The falling numbers and protein are second to none. Unfortunately we get about a buck a bushel less than elsewhere because of shipping. Ed k
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