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Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.
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If the first tests were accurate If it wasn't another strain If it was even Covid If it wasn't a relapse.
But maybe....
So many ifs, so little proof.
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If the first tests were accurate If it wasn't another strain If it was even Covid If it wasn't a relapse.
But maybe....
So many ifs, so little proof. Tell ya one damned thing: COVID-19 IS NOT THE FLU, especially the Spanish flu.... It's no smallpox either......
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If someone can catch the Coivid a second time the means that there will be no vaccine and no immunity after the initial infection..
Not good and it does prove that one cannot hide from it.
A cure is what is needed.. Hydroxychloroquine being a good starting point.
Actually it's not much more than a common cold to those other than the snowflakes.
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Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.
Phil Greyghost, I highly recommend you quarantine and don't leave the house........ ever again Better safe than sorry...
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.
Phil How many consecutive negative tests before they returned to duty, and which test?
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.
Phil Greyghost, I highly recommend you quarantine and don't leave the house........ ever again Better safe than sorry... My thoughts too, way too dangerous out here in the big bad world.
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Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.
Phil How many consecutive negative tests before they returned to duty, and which test? Don't go analyzing it, just confuses the issue.
“Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.” ― G. Orwell
"Why can't men kill big game with the same cartridges women and kids use?" _Eileen Clarke
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Oh well.
All of this discussion sidesteps the central fact: no one defined “victory” when we shut down and because of that many tyrants have over played their hands.
The race has been in existence for millions of years and will continue for millions more. Epidemics and pandemics have come and gone and people have died of them and will continue to do so.
Shutting down our entire economy is and always was a fools errand.
Life causes death; best we can do is be prudent in our measures to stay safe. Safetyism’s nanny state “solution” was nothing of the sort.
No point in staying alive if we’re not allowed to live.
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That is very bad news. It wouldn't surprise me if the effects are life long even for mild cases. In your balls, they have the same receptors the virus finds in lungs. They have found it can pass through your bloodstream. There is a possibility that it can mess up your sperm , so it could effect generations. This isn't a problem for us old pharts , we have grand kids.
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That is very bad news. It wouldn't surprise me if the effects are life long even for mild cases. In your balls, they have the same receptors the virus finds in lungs. They have found it can pass through your bloodstream. There is a possibility that it can mess up your sperm , so it could effect generations. This isn't a problem for us old pharts , we have grand kids. Probably a Chinese plot to depopulate their country that went terrible wrong.
Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.
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What treatment did they receive, especially since this was early on. What was their viral load? Severe? How accurate was the initial test? - some weren't. How accurate were subsequent tests - unknown. Have they had sufficient time to develop antibodies? (probably not). Were they treated and sequestered together?
Let's not get all carried away just yet.
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Success with plasma treatment should be a pretty good indicator of immune response.
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And of course theirs the "It doesn't effect kids"... just released from the CDC: LinkPhil
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Sero coversion is not immediate. HIV, for example is up to 12 weeks. Take the Hep B vaccine. It takes three doses. Initial, @ 1 month and @ 6 months. and then checked for sero conversion. So let's not go off the deep on this report alone. Here's a little help in simplified form: Seroconversion
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia In immunology, seroconversion is the time period during which a specific antibody develops and becomes detectable in the blood. After seroconversion has occurred, the disease can be detected in blood tests for the antibody. During an infection or immunization, antigens enter the blood, and the immune system begins to produce antibodies in response. Before seroconversion, the antigen itself may or may not be detectable, but the antibody is, by definition, absent. During seroconversion, the antibody is present but not yet detectable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seroconversion
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
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And of course theirs the "It doesn't effect kids"... just released from the CDC: LinkPhil Much like the MSM you look right past the %'s. Hint: the %'s matter.
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Well, in Tanzania they had a goat and a papaya test positive for COVID19 using those donated Chinese test kits, so there's that...............
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Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.
Phil Phils still in his closet wearing his mask and trying to suck his thumb while he whimpers uncontrollably
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And of course theirs the "It doesn't effect kids"... just released from the CDC: LinkPhil A month ago the CDC stated that it was dangerous to wear a mask on their web site and advised not to wear a mask. Goes to\ show you how clueless the politicians at the CDC are.
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