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[quote=las] If the first tests were accurate If it wasn't another strain If it was even Covid If it wasn't a relapse.
But maybe....
So many ifs, so little proof few who tell the truth![ /quote] Fixed it for you !
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Keep running scared Phil, best for you to stay in the house and play on the internet.
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Interesting.
From a search I found this posted 2 days ago on NPR
"The U.S. Navy says 13 sailors from the USS Theodore Roosevelt who had apparently recovered from the coronavirus and had received negative test results have now tested positive for a second time.
In a statement released earlier on Saturday when five sailors were found to have retested positive, the Navy said the sailors had "met rigorous recovery criteria, exceeding CDC guidelines," including testing negative for the virus at least twice, but have now retested positive. The statement said the sailors had been monitoring their health and adhered to social-distancing protocols while on board the Roosevelt, which has been docked in Guam following an outbreak infecting hundreds of crew members.
"These five Sailors developed influenza-like illness symptoms and did the right thing reporting to medical for evaluation," the statement said.
The Navy has since confirmed to NPR that an additional eight sailors have retested positive for coronavirus, bringing the total to 13.
The Navy said the sailors were removed from the ship and placed in isolation, and are receiving medical care. A "small number" of sailors who had been in contact with them also were removed, retested and quarantined, officials said.
In an email to NPR, a Navy spokesperson said the sailors with new positive tests are receiving medical support on Naval Base Guam, and none are currently aboard the ship.
Public health experts are trying to learn more about why patients sometimes test positive for the coronavirus after appearing to recover. As NPR has reported, authorities in South Korea have documented a growing number of such cases. Health officials have said they believe the virus may be capable of becoming dormant and later reactivating in some people's immune systems.
Stanley Perlman, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of Iowa, recently told NPR's Nell Greenfieldboyce that patients who recover from the virus may have at least some level of protection from it in the future, but much remains unknown.
"Based on other infections where you get a deep lung infection, you are usually protected against the second infection. If you just have a mild COVID-19 infection that involves your upper airway, maybe it will behave like a common cold coronavirus and maybe you can be reinfected again," Perlman said. "We just really don't know. It's even hard to speculate.""
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And of course theirs the "It doesn't effect kids"... just released from the CDC: LinkPhil Much like the MSM you look right past the %'s. Hint: the %'s matter. Now give him a break. He's trying to develop a narrative to why the world needs to stay locked down as long as his dearly beloved California and why the Orange Man is bad. Let's look at his article. First of all, it's talking about Kawaski's Disease, which is largely a syndrome of unknow causes. There has been reports that we are seeing that in some kids that have been positve for COVID. Why? Well, it's too early to tell. They idea that NO children are getting COVID is perposertorious, but we do have ample date showing the under 21 crowd gets it at a remarkably lower rate than than the older folks. Of course, CNN, doesn't emphasize such things. Let's take another fact about Kawaski's Syndrome. Cause is unknown. Mostly children under 5 years old, more males than females, triggered by an infection setting up an auto immune response in those genetically predisposed.So take a look at the article cited an drawen your own conclusion: During March and April, cases of COVID-19 rapidly increased in New York City and New York State. In early May 2020, the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene received reports of children with multisystem inflammatory syndrome. From April 16 through May 4, 2020, 15 patients aged 2-15 years were hospitalized, many requiring admission to the intensive care unit. As of May 12, 2020, the New York State Department of Health identified 102 patients (including patients from New York City) with similar presentations, many of whom tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 infection by RT-PCR or serologic assay. New York State and New York City continue to receive additional reports of suspected cases.
Additional reports of children presenting with severe inflammatory syndrome with a laboratory-confirmed case of COVID-19 or an epidemiological link to a COVID-19 case have been reported by authorities in other countries.4
It is currently unknown if multisystem inflammatory syndrome is specific to children or if it also occurs in adults.
There is limited information currently available about risk factors, pathogenesis, clinical course, and treatment for MIS-C. CDC is requesting healthcare providers report suspected cases to public health authorities to better characterize this newly recognized condition in the pediatric population.
So sorry, but that post above is a bit misleading or short on info.
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What bullshit. One or the other tests threw a false positive. You aren't getting the same virus twice back to back like that. Ever. It’s never happened since the science of epidemiology came to be.
It’s a testing issue
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Pre-Covid incidence of Kawasaki’s Disease Rate (per 100,000/year)* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6702118/*Fubarski- Before you go ape-shït about children being expressed as x/10th, these are averages, and therefore aren’t expressed in whole numbers except in select cases, including Israel.
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Must have had that COVID stuff ripping through Japan before we knew about it, eh??
Or, how about a legit observation.
Chart above shows an incredibly higher rate in Asia than anywhere else. Anyone want to tell us the ethnic origin of these patients in NY? Are 1/3 of Asian? More? Less?
There are many, many diseases that hit different ethnicities harder than others. Where is that in any of this responsible reporting????
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Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.
Phil Phils still in his closet wearing his mask and trying to suck his thumb while he whimpers uncontrollably Yep. Him and his DemoRat ilk are still hoping to destroy Trump and America. Epic fail as per usual.
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If someone can catch the Coivid a second time the means that there will be no vaccine and no immunity after the initial infection..
Not good and it does prove that one cannot hide from it.
A cure is what is needed.. Hydroxychloroquine being a good starting point.
Not enough money to be made by the deep state cabals big pharmaceutical stock holders on Hydroxychloroquine. I wonder what it costs to get the plasma treatment from those previously affected. If infected folks dont produce antibodies that fight it, how would plasma treatments be beneficial.
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Must have had that COVID stuff ripping through Japan before we knew about it, eh??
Or, how about a legit observation.
Chart above shows an incredibly higher rate in Asia than anywhere else. Anyone want to tell us the ethnic origin of these patients in NY? Are 1/3 of Asian? More? Less?
There are many, many diseases that hit different ethnicities harder than others. Where is that in any of this responsible reporting???? It's amazing how the most stupid of indoctrinated people can read posts by high IQ types and never get a clue the genius is the least bit smarter than them. Dumb high school kids can take a math test and get an F and then still think they are as smart as and know where it's at as those who make A's.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
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If someone can catch the Coivid a second time the means that there will be no vaccine and no immunity after the initial infection..
Not good and it does prove that one cannot hide from it.
A cure is what is needed.. Hydroxychloroquine being a good starting point.
Not enough money to be made by the deep state cabals big pharmaceutical stock holders on Hydroxychloroquine. I wonder what it costs to get the plasma treatment from those previously affected. If infected folks dont produce antibodies that fight it, how would plasma treatments be beneficial. Oh, there you go again with logic and real science. That's not fair. You didn't use a model that you created yourself for a predetermined result. What fun is that?
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Once you've recovered from it, you can't get it again. So far eleven sailors from the TR carrier, those heavily tested, quarantined, recovered, and sent back to duty, Have again become symptomatic and tested positive again. So much for that point.
Phil I hope you get it so many times it rots your pussy lips slam off. Maybe your meat curtains will resemble swiss cheese.
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There is very little that we know of this disease; each "discovery" seem to get blown out of the water.
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Could it be this?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-south-korean-reactivated-cases-not-reinfected-experts-2020-4%3famp
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What bullshit. One or the other tests threw a false positive. You aren't getting the same virus twice back to back like that. Ever. It’s never happened since the science of epidemiology came to be.
It’s a testing issue Then the far-out claims it has an HIV component and its a bio weapon would be true
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Oh well.
All of this discussion sidesteps the central fact: no one defined “victory” when we shut down and because of that many tyrants have over played their hands.
The race has been in existence for millions of years and will continue for millions more. Epidemics and pandemics have come and gone and people have died of them and will continue to do so.
Shutting down our entire economy is and always was a fools errand.
Life causes death; best we can do is be prudent in our measures to stay safe. Safetyism’s nanny state “solution” was nothing of the sort.
No point in staying alive if we’re not allowed to live. Well said. I agree.
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Latest from the CDC......having your head firmly impacted in your ass is a better preventative than a mask.
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And of course theirs the "It doesn't effect kids"... just released from the CDC: LinkPhil And of course *there’s also knowing simple English grammar.
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None of you dumb-[bleep] could read or comprehend a real news story if you were paid to and your life depended on it. You pick and choose to suit your agenda All of the news storys specifically stated the the sailors tested positive again after recovering while quarantined and having multiple negative test. And that they were removed from the ship AFTER having been returned to duty!
Same goes with the CDC report, Specifically stated that the kids had been tested positive with Covid-19 and were showing symptoms similar to Kawasaki’s and many other inflammatory diseases. Didn't say a single damn word about it being Kawasaki's disease or any of the others.
Did any of you get anything other than a first grade education? Read again and stay away from FOX, its eating your brains...
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