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Church is meeting in the parking lot. We started it before any legal restrictions were in place.

I'm in Illinois which is generally considered to be one of the most liberal states in the union. New construction continues, with exceptions of a couple of large projects that were directly impacted by the virus. And they've re-started in a cautious manor. (I74 Mississippi River Bridge Project)

Home remodels by contractors are ongoing. My wife's cousin just had his home re-sided.

Restaurants and establishments that open under health dept license are restricted as to hours, and are carry out or drive through only. Wife and I did a day road trip yesterday and ate lunch in Milledgeville Illinois at the Rt40 cafe. We picked it up at the window and drove out to the fairgrounds overlooking town to eat.

On our way home last night we picked up Mexican via curbside service at Kelly's Pub in Sterling. Took it home and had a feast. (Fiesta?)

I read a lot from the screamers that we've given away our liberty.

Bullshit.

I read that the Greatest Generation would be shocked.

Bullshit...

Many of the greatest generation were born in the time of the Spanish Flu. Measles, Smallpox, and Polio were all causes for quarantines in their day.
My father, of the Greatest Generation, and WWII participant in the Japanese Islands campaign recalled having a quarantine sign posted at their lane entrance and on their front door.
The county health dept then, and now had the power to alter people lives when necessary. And when a particular illness becomes pandemic the federal government has always stepped in with harsh measures.

It really always has been about what's the best for the most.

The liberals are lying? That's not news, and there likely is no lawful cure.

Back in your father’s day, liberty was under attack as much as now. Did he ever mention the gold confiscation of 1933? Prohibition? The NFA? We went from buying a Thompson or BAR at the hardware store or through the mail to not being able to get them without a major hassle and expense. Did you know that BATF was formed as a job for sidelined revenue agents originally tasked to enforce Prohibition? That the NFA’s first test before SCOTUS resulted from a moonshine still bust in Arkansas where the operator was charged under the NFA for having a single shot shotgun with a barrel too short? Many people of that generation worshipped FDR, and the guy was a commie who tried to flood the SCOTUS with judges loyal to his agenda. And even back then, they only quarantined the sick. I’d say things have progressed...

We have lost so much liberty in the last hundred years, that most folks living lack even a marginal perspective on what liberty even is. They sit like frogs in the warming pot, and as the temperature rises, they keep assuring their fellows that everything is fine. Well everything is not fine, And the sleepy sheep are part of the problem.

About the same as my most recent dining out experience.

I think you're about 180 it on how you understand what he said. He's on your side.

I apologized to him, for my misunderstanding of his post! memtb

Yeah, I saw that later. My apologies. It's sometimes hard to keep the players straight on here lately.

Nothin to see.... just move along... Johnw was able to get take out.... everything is fine....

When people do what's in their nature, they don't need to conspire. Politicians are people who are willing to spend millions of dollars to get a job that pays hundreds of thousands. Why? Because it gives them power. And when a power-hungry person sees the opportunity to seize more power, they take it. They don't need to conspire with other power-hungry people beforehand.

No surprises, people are sheeple and do as they told.

Was digging around in some old posts and found this






Everyone returned healthy , not even a cold . Other crews since have been sent up north again and again everyone returned healthy .
Kenneth

Disappointed, but not surprised

Rocky,

I cannot believe you were a believer.

Atone, please.

Wouldn't it be much simpler to just not go to work?

Link to Vid

Liberty is a value, not an instinct - Dennis Prager

Trail run for the democrat socialist communist take over in America. Next time they will know where, when, and how force to use.

We’ve always been had. When this first started I told my buddy, we’re about to see how easy the government can control us...

"I know nurses who think it’s overhyped."

I know one who doesn't. She got nail with the caronacrap early and is still having major problems trying to kick it.

Me? I'm one of those I will not comply" types and refuse to even wear a mask unless forced to, and then will comply after vigorous protest. Just ask the door person at COSTCO.

I had to see my doctor yesterday and I was not wearing a mask. All the sheep in the waiting room gave me looks that of those looks had the power of a 40 Megawat plasma gun there would have been nothing left. Even my doc got a bit testy about it. All my vitals checked out and even my temp was lower than usual by a half a degree. I usually run 96 point something any yesterday it was 95.6 IIRC. I looked him in the eye and told him, "I'm not afraid and I refuse to live in fear."
Paul B.
PS: I'll be 82 years young come this next mid August.
PB

I too think it was a deliberate bio-war attack, not only against the UC, but entire world in the hope that China will end up being the only real world power regarding not only financial but militarily.
Paul B.