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Guys,

There is no reason to make all these derogatory remarks to this woman. This has nothing to do with her looks, bra size, weight, or anything else of a personal nature. There is not a single one of you, being honest with yourself, that would not be aggravated if someone started firing in the direction of your home and was less than 500' away. It is like the old adage "It is legal but is it ethical or safe?" Her house and other houses were there before he built his range. Who here can honestly say they would have built as he did? I wouldn't have. Safety first is more than just a slogan, it is a way of life.

She came to this forum to defend herself and her actions from the first few posts. She is a smart, intelligent, stand up woman who obviously threatens the testosterone levels of a lot of you guys. It is obvious she does not intimidate easily and stands up for herself. This is the kind of standup woman we want on our side not some mamby pamby wishy washy woman who cowers and hides at the first sign of trouble.

You don't know anything about her except she has good lucks and a great body. You don't have to agree with her but you also don't need to be making personal attacks of a sexual nature. I figure most of these are from fat, old, paunch gut men who haven't seen their small dicks in years and will never have the pleasure of having such a pretty woman on your arm while walking down the street. Prove me wrong.

Jim

Here's a few brief observations I have. Some of which concerns you two...

1) Misty, neither you nor the range owner is 100% in the right, so to speak.

I think you have over dramatized the situation, and are making some claims that will be hard to prove.

The range owner isn't 100% in the right because he obviously doesn't care about causing issues with the neighbors. He may have the rule of law in his favor, but in many cases, just because something is legal, doesn't mean it's a good idea to do it.

2) This has nothing to do with looks or male or female. We ought to have more class here than to personally insult someone over their looks, or call them names. (Trolls excepted )

3) The OP had the title right from the beginning. Shooting Range Drama. Stress on the "Drama" part. So far, it has lived up to it's name.[/quote]
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1. ) We did try to work with him, we asked him to turn it and that would've been acceptable but he didn't want to turn it away, he admitted he could see our home but never drove back here to see how many others homes there were, which rule number one when setting a berm is no your back stop and further more what is behind it since no shot is guaranteed that is off the NRA page and just common sense. There was a guy over a mile away who had a ricochet come through our yard while we were building the guy behind me went to him and showed him the trees it was hitting and the guy rectified his berm no issues, no one persecuted him, no one sued him, it was an honest mistake that he wasn't aware and he addressed it, problem solved he shoots almost nightly out here no one cares or bothers him in fact if we don't hear him we assume he is traveling, a few blocks away there is another house shoots all the time as well, again his range is safely away from every one and he has above ground back stop and they are also not shooting 50 BMG , the guy at the end of our street has a 50 BMG he used to have a range out back ( well technically he still does ) but once people built behind him he no longer would consider shooting that on his range because it is logical or safe as he said and it's just not worth it...

1-B.) Yes the owner blatantly said he doesn't care about safety of those behind him in fact verbatim " that's a risk I'm willing to take he said in fron of an audience of 5 people "

2.) Correct looks or gender have nothing to do with the range at all

Thank you Jim for sticking to valid points. There isn't a single of those keyboard warriors that would come stand on my property line while they are hot over there or willing to send a video of someone firing a fully automatic or 50 BMG with no upper berm just 500 ft away either.

The logic of some that we should all see our houses and move makes zero sense. So what we sell we move the new owners have the same issues and everyone keeps selling out here to accommodate the guys who isn't being safe? Our house took over a 1.5 years to build since it was a custom home, the couple behind us is their retirement home, same with the couple across from me and the one beside me, the one at end of our street both houses retired Navy vets built their retirement homes, couple who just moved in small children wanted them to be in a safe desired area to have friends to play safely, state trooper wanted peace, it goes on and on so those who feel we should all sell is just not even logical.

Soooooo you have a crush on the drama queen and are soliciting for dick pics?

Old women are brutal.

AS: All I can say is that, as an NRA-classified Lifetime Master in High Power Rifle since 1961, I've been in the pits while thousands of rounds went about 6 feet over my head. The firing line was 200 yards away. the "crack" from the bullet was MUCH LOUDER than the rifle's report, which was heard a fraction of a second later.

Now it may be that the berm (behind me) absorbs some of the sound of the rifle's report. But consider this: The impact area (in front of me) at my club is about 50 feet high, with the bullets impacting near the bottom. Behind that is a street about 600 feet away. One time I was on that street during a rapid fire (about 4 shooters firing 40 shots total in 60 seconds) match. I thought the sound was pretty loud and obnoxious.

Sometimes while in the pits I've seen bullets ricochet and hit the hill in back, about 10 feet or so up from the initial impact. I don't think the so-called berm in the photo at the start of this thread would provide protection from such a ricochet.

I doubt it, but he has some class unlike most of the bozos here, dont type it if you wont say it to someones face.... doubtful we have all the facts. and in the end it doesn't matter one bit what we think, its just a opinion. Amazing the remarks someone will say.... wonder how they treat their own family, or if they kick there dog when they wander out of their trailer in the morning to scratch there ball sacks... once they find them.

Rockingbbar’s post showed class. Batman’s had a bunch of snarky insults. The irony should not need pointed out. For the record I never insulted her, simply asked if there was a link for nudes. Given the nature of pics already provided that is not out of line.

Ymmv

And for what reason did you want nude pics...? ..... eh, just askin....

If you don't already understand that the state and county are more interested in covering their ass than your safety, then you're being naive.

Best of Luck.

Ever tried Great Stuff?

All the guy needs to do is install a tower to shoot from.

In Texas you can shoot on your property out of town and with in the laws of your local as long as the projectiles do not cross the fence.

The bullets need to stay on your side.

No no we agree we know the county and state are looking to address it to cover their asses due to the hefty paper trail from several homes out here.

The State already has a ton of lawsuits over this topic on other cases because Counties were getting sued so the other action the county could take do the way the Statue is written, was to sue the State, that's how we found our attorney through the first county who sued the state and his firm won against the state in that suit. The last thing they need is someone to get hit by a stray or have that 50 go rogue and into that populated area and now there is a long paper trail showing letters from multiple homes reaching out with concern to both the Governor's office, the Attorney General, the Senators office, State Reps, County Commissioners, County Attorney, EPA, Code enforcement and zoning and planning, because then you have a deliberate in differential lawsuit on them as well. Most of our County officials also have said this is just insane.

The guy better have blue sky barriers and count on more than a a tall berm to contain the lead.

I've been a member of two shooting ranges that have almost shut down because neighbors out buildings got hit by bullets leaving the range. These ranges had tall hills beyond the back stops.

The one incident was on a 200 plus yard range and police doing training launched the bullets out.

In the end, Its not the home owner building the range that will screw up, its his stupid guests that may take him down.

How would all of you neighborhood girls feel if he were building a heliport in his side yard ?

God only knows when a rouge Bell ranger might take out a daycare center, and oh the noise !!!!!

The road in front of my house has cars driving up and down it all day and some even after dark!
There are no barriers, there is nothing to stop a car if one were to turn and head off the road.

They could hit my house, worse yet they could hit one of my children!

The state needs to do something about this it's so dangerous and nobody will listen to me...

They either need to put an end to cars driving on these roads or build barriers strong enough to hold cars back to save my poor family...

Uh? To look at pictures of nekkid women?

is there a mo betta reason?

Billygoat, you are a low class a$$hole. That pretty sums it up. There was nothing snarky. Just facts. Post a pic of yourself proving me wrong if you dare.

Jim

Good fences make good neighbors?

We live at the end of a curve on a rural, 55mph, road, just as it straightens out again. Car come around that bend fast sometimes. I wonder if some big rocks from the quarry/gravel pit are called for. The neighbor 1/4 mile down the road runs cows, few times a year the semis hauling them in and out come around that curve. If one were to leave the road, it could get messy.

Oh, the joys of living rural. Or even semi rural, Or suburban. Or urban. Or in a skyscraper.

fugginneighbors fugginupeveryfugginthing..................just like the Chinese.