Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Here is my position on Donald Trump:

........................Well the debt when Trump took office was about $20-$21 trillion. Obama started out his 1st term with about a $10 trillion debt. Now depending on what type of structure (loans etc) certain Covid19 stimuli had, some $$$ will be re-paid because they were structured as low interest loans.

As far as Trump adding to the debt in fighting covid19. What was the alternative? Tell Fauci, Birx, plus all the rest of the doctors and so called medical experts that they are wrong? As it turned out most of them were wrong about the projection models AFTER THE FACT!... BUT! In this case there was no way to know ahead of time what this virus was going to do or NOT DO. Had Trump not shut down the country, not halted travel to and from China, not halted travel to and from Europe, not halted travel to and from other countries, not implemented social distancing plus all the rest of what the doctors reco'd and instead basically continued as normal long before the virus had reached the top of the curve, would you then have been more comfortable with say 500,000 American deaths?, a million? two million? maybe more?

This virus was no hoax. Nevertheless in many ways this crises was and still is being overblown by the dems and media.

So lets assume that there was no stimulus $$$ made available to anyone. Not one $..... No help for small businesses, no help for big businesses, no help for any corporations such as airlines, cruise lines, hospitality related businesses, no help for any business that employs 1 person or thousands and no help for any individuals whatsoever.....So then what kind of an economy do you think we would have to go back to if little to no jobs are available because there was little to no business working capital for businesses to employ people?.......I will tell you. Had there not have been any govt stimulus in THIS case, any worthwhile economic recovery followed by steady positive growth, followed then to EXACTLY where we were before the virus,,, would have taken decades to rebound to the same economic status before the virus hit. A country's economic wealth is not built overnight or in a year or two.....

So while your concern for the debt is a good one, remember that in order for any robust economic recovery to occur, businesses and people must be solvent in order to employ people and solvent in order to be able to spend. Had there been no financial help for anyone, then you can bet that the cure would have been far more destructive than the disease itself due to a multitude multiplied by multiudes more of destructive societal after effects........

I laughed my ass off when mouthbreathers were saying - uh i uh think colin powell would be a good presidents - WT-FK ??

Been saying for 25+ years STOP ELECTING POLITICIANS and finally we have a none politician at the helm -- GO TRUMP ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Look at the uproar the globalist are in -- they don't have a bought & paid for scumbag sitting in The White House .

PJGunner - good stuff .

See my last post above.......But I will also say this. Had there been NO depletion by the Obama administration of covid fighting PPE such as ventilators, masks plus all the rest of the PPE and if there had been full support by the dems, media, FDA and CDC for the immediate distribution of hydroxychloroquin and its mate drug azithromycin, then maybe a shut down would not have occurred or maybe a shutdown might have happened but to a far lesser degree than what we had....I do not believe that Trump was purposely duped or roped into a shut down. Instead, I believe he acted with caution and acted in order to NOT TAKE the chance in having far more deaths than we already have......Had he not acted with a shut down and travel bans, then perhaps hundreds of thousands and maybe even alot more into the millions would have died in the USA.......Back 3 months ago, there was no way to know what we know now. Trump was not going to take the chance.

I still don't believe the China virus was a big to the majority of the people in the US of A. My family still doesn't know anyone who has died from the China virus, but at least we finally know two people that had the China virus. There's a lot of businesses that received no stimulus money. My guess is more stimulus money was stolen than made it to it's intended purpose. Why would someone sign a bill giving people on unemployment and welfare more money? Or give money to some of the dumocrats other pet projects? Was it for a vote or money?

100 days ago, we could see what had happened in the Wuhan District, we could see what was starting to happen in Italy. We saw one infection turn into ten and then fifty. We saw infections sprout up, seemingly from nowhere, in NYC, in Seattle, in Cali.

ALL the experts predicted the growth of the Covid in the USA would mimic that of Italy.

When you are sitting in the seat of power, with the lives of 330 million people in your hands, you gotta listen to the people at the tops of their fields. You gotta err on the side of caution. And the absolute worst thing you can do when you have 100 million Democrats yapping and nipping at your heels, is nothing.

It was predicted from the moment Trump recommended shutdowns, "If this works like we hope it will, the people will scream it was never needed."

I have the greatest respect for our current President. I think he has made the absolute best of one of the worst crises this nation has faced. Half the nation hated him before he won the election, and now half of his previous supporters hate him for his response to the current health crises.

I can certainly not think of anyone else I would have rather had running this nation during the last four months, or the last three and a half years.

If Trump would of left the country open like I believe he knew was the right call, the US would of been a lot better off.

100 days ago, we could see what had happened in the Wuhan District, we could see what was starting to happen in Italy. We saw one infection turn into ten and then fifty. We saw infections sprout up, seemingly from nowhere, in NYC, in Seattle, in Cali.

ALL the experts predicted the growth of the Covid in the USA would mimic that of Italy.

When you are sitting in the seat of power, with the lives of 330 million people in your hands, you gotta listen to the people at the tops of their fields. You gotta err on the side of caution. And the absolute worst thing you can do when you have 100 million Democrats yapping and nipping at your heels, is nothing.

It was predicted from the moment Trump recommended shutdowns, "If this works like we hope it will, the people will scream it was never needed."

I have the greatest respect for our current President. I think he has made the absolute best of one of the worst crises this nation has faced. Half the nation hated him before he won the election, and now half of his previous supporters hate him for his response to the current health crises.

I can certainly not think of anyone else I would have rather had running this nation during the last four months, or the last three and a half years.