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You guys need to stop.
You're making idiots of yourselves.
Tell us more about first aid class. Shouldn't you be arguing with ribka about how to arrest people? LOL
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Where are officers trained to place their weight after restraining someone then? Their ankles? completely clueless. Maybe stick with the fake news that the officer was kneeling on gentle Floyd's carotid arteries and choked him out like all of the other posters on here posted then disappeared. lol Crump is representing the family...demands first degree murder charge ! Please do charge the officers with first degree murder. The third degree murder the officer is charged with isn’t substantiated much less first degree murder. Appeasement never works ! Minneapolis is going to burn regardless of the charge or the real cause of death. I’m going to go way out on a limb here and say toxicology is going to come back as overdosed on drug of choice. No one that Ive known has ever died of a drug overdose. Must have been that officer kneeling on gentle Floyd's carotid artery on his upper shoulders that killed him. Ask all of the internet detectives on here. I read the charging documents and he was definitely resisting and The whole claustrophobic bit is bs because they just pulled him out of a car. He’s falling down and resisting so they pin him to the ground completely immobilize him and wait for the ambulance to haul him off to the hospital for an evaluation. Just officers doing a routine job professionally and the guy happened to die from a whole history of poor choices right up to his death. If they’d let him continue to flop around and he had seriously injured himself they’d have been responsible for his injuries. .............You just don't get it do ya? The officers were justified with pinning him to the ground. But after he was ON the GROUND, laying on his stomach and CUFFED with hands BEHIND his BACK, THERE WAS NO NEED TO immobilize him any further. He had been immobilized. That officer could have very easily applied pressure elsewhere on the backside of his body to keep him from "FLOPPING AROUND" as you say. Routine you say?................ Absolute BULLCRAP!......
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.............You just don't get it do ya? The officers were justified with pinning him to the ground. But after he was ON the GROUND, laying on his stomach and CUFFED with hands BEHIND his BACK, THERE WAS NO NEED TO immobilize him any further. He had been immobilized. That officer could have very easily applied pressure elsewhere on the backside of his body to keep him from "FLOPPING AROUND" as you say. Routine you say?................ Absolute BULLCRAP!......
You guys need to stop. You're making idiots of yourselves. .........................Well that is your opinion!
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Bro really? You guys need to stop.
You're making idiots of yourselves.
Tell us more about first aid class. Shouldn't you be arguing with ribka about how to arrest people? LOL
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Which detaining and or restraining procedures did the officer violate from his training? Please be specific or just verbal diarrhea again? They’re charging the cop and they don’t have the autopsy yet ? I’m going to bet that eventually the cops will be exonerated , get back pay , and a large settlement to resign. ........................Like I said in my other post... You are unfamiliar with LEO policies and police protocols. Does not matter IF the autopsy finds positive of whatever drug or drugs. The officers violated detainment procedure after he was already cuffed and on the ground....That is called,,,"unreasonable force"...... The officer was charged with one count of 3rd degree murder plus one count of manslaughter. Apparently all of those investigating this case and who watched the video including the Minneapolis DA and the federal authorities, all disagree with ya there Daveinjax not to mention many more who also disagree with you..... Slice and dice this any way you wish and justify the officer's actions any way you wish....Bottom line? The officer violated procedure which directly lead to a death. Officers were professionally immobilizing the perp so he couldn’t hurt himself or others until medical transport arrived. By pinning him to the ground and completely immobilizing him they’re protecting him. They’re not medical professionals so they don’t know how to properly diagnose and treat the perp. Hence the ambulance with medical professionals. Floyd was a heart attack waiting to happen. ......You are full of CRAP!... Professionally immobilizing him??? Ya mean professionally immobilizing him by putting pressure on his neck for 6 to 8 minutes dramatically reducing the blood flow to the brain?? Ya mean THAT KIND of PROFESSIONAL immobilization??.............. Yep! You are right. The officers are not medical professionals. HOWEVER and nevertheless, they are TRAINED LEOs who violated detainment procedure by using unreasonable force. You do NOT need to be a medical professional to know that when force is applied to the neck in certain ways for a period of time, it can cause death. Those officers were trained on what to do,,, AND ALSO TRAINED ON WHAT NOT TO DO....
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Bro really? You guys need to stop.
You're making idiots of yourselves.
Tell us more about first aid class. Shouldn't you be arguing with ribka about how to arrest people? LOL LOL
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Are you ever correct in your assessments? lol
.............You just don't get it do ya? The officers were justified with pinning him to the ground. But after he was ON the GROUND, laying on his stomach and CUFFED with hands BEHIND his BACK, THERE WAS NO NEED TO immobilize him any further. He had been immobilized. That officer could have very easily applied pressure elsewhere on the backside of his body to keep him from "FLOPPING AROUND" as you say. Routine you say?................ Absolute BULLCRAP!......
You guys need to stop. You're making idiots of yourselves. .........................Well that is your opinion!
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.............You just don't get it do ya? The officers were justified with pinning him to the ground. But after he was ON the GROUND, laying on his stomach and CUFFED with hands BEHIND his BACK, THERE WAS NO NEED TO immobilize him any further. He had been immobilized. That officer could have very easily applied pressure elsewhere on the backside of his body to keep him from "FLOPPING AROUND" as you say. Routine you say?................ Absolute BULLCRAP!......
You guys need to stop. You're making idiots of yourselves. .........................Well that is your opinion! Just stop.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I will be surprised if the autopsy doesn't say he might have eaten some bad Chinese food for breakfast that day, maybe even cat liver and onions . Covid death.
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It's not a cop's job to evaluate your pre-existing medical conditions when you resist arrest.
Saying "I can't breathe" is proof that you can breathe. Anybody that's taken First Aid training knows this.
All of these circumstances and scenarios have been weighed by the courts tens of thousands of times. The DA knows this isn't going to be a conviction. It's just feel good bullschit. So, in your expert opinion, one can’t verbally report that they are having difficulty breathing, if they’re having difficulty breathing? You can say the words "I'm having difficulty breathing" while you're breathing.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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So when people in respiratory distress are still talking, and saying specifically that they are having trouble breathing, they’re really not...? Got it.
And when they finally do quit breathing because they’re now in respiratory failure, they quit breathing due to some other reason because ‘they were talkin’ earlier’...? Got it.
Ive actually seen people desperately gasping for air as they desperately uttered 'I can't breathe..!!!' and very soon after they were unconscious/dead. Is this a confession?
Epstein didn't kill himself.
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Soo I can keep going into Furniture Barn and light fires?
Oh wait....
If you're gonna do it, now's the time.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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You guys need to stop.
You're making idiots of yourselves.
Tell us more about first aid class. Shouldn't you be arguing with ribka about how to arrest people? LOL This issue with you and Ribka has nothing to do with how to arrest people. It has to do with your weakness arguing a viewpoint.
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Pretty easy to kill someone with even minor pressure to both carotids. Yeah, you can still breath and talk until you pass out. When the brain stops getting oxygen, it gives you the sensation you can't breath which is what appears to be happening, right up to the point he passed out. The continual pressure after that just prolonged the brain injury from lack of oxygen. Will not be a difficult case to get a conviction.
You know, it's actually easy to make someone pass out just be checking for a pulse on both sides at the same time.
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Crump is representing the family...demands first degree murder charge ! Please do charge the officers with first degree murder. The third degree murder the officer is charged with isn’t substantiated much less first degree murder. Appeasement never works ! Minneapolis is going to burn regardless of the charge or the real cause of death. I’m going to go way out on a limb here and say toxicology is going to come back as overdosed on drug of choice. No one that Ive known has ever died of a drug overdose. Must have been that officer kneeling on gentle Floyd's carotid artery on his upper shoulders that killed him. Ask all of the internet detectives on here. I read the charging documents and he was definitely resisting and The whole claustrophobic bit is bs because they just pulled him out of a car. He’s falling down and resisting so they pin him to the ground completely immobilize him and wait for the ambulance to haul him off to the hospital for an evaluation. Just officers doing a routine job professionally and the guy happened to die from a whole history of poor choices right up to his death. If they’d let him continue to flop around and he had seriously injured himself they’d have been responsible for his injuries. ............. But after he was ON the GROUND, laying on his stomach and CUFFED with hands BEHIND his BACK, THERE WAS NO NEED TO immobilize him any further. An officer does have a duty to keep someone he thinks may be a danger to himself and others immobilized. Have you ever heard of someone in cuffs hurting themselves or others? How much pressure was the officer applying with his knee? .........There is no possible way that any suspect can be of danger to others or to himself when laying flat on his stomach, hands behind his back and hand cuffed. And apparently there was enough pressure applied to the neck to kill him!!....Yes! Any officer has the duty to keep someone he thinks is a danger to himself and others immobilized......BUT NOT 6 to 8 minutes of downward pressure on the neck area, WHILE THE MAN is laying flat on his stomach, hands behind the back AND HANDCUFFED!!
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Which detaining and or restraining procedures did the officer violate from his training? Please be specific or just verbal diarrhea again? They’re charging the cop and they don’t have the autopsy yet ? I’m going to bet that eventually the cops will be exonerated , get back pay , and a large settlement to resign. ........................Like I said in my other post... You are unfamiliar with LEO policies and police protocols. Does not matter IF the autopsy finds positive of whatever drug or drugs. The officers violated detainment procedure after he was already cuffed and on the ground....That is called,,,"unreasonable force"...... The officer was charged with one count of 3rd degree murder plus one count of manslaughter. Apparently all of those investigating this case and who watched the video including the Minneapolis DA and the federal authorities, all disagree with ya there Daveinjax not to mention many more who also disagree with you..... Slice and dice this any way you wish and justify the officer's actions any way you wish....Bottom line? The officer violated procedure which directly lead to a death. Officers were professionally immobilizing the perp so he couldn’t hurt himself or others until medical transport arrived. By pinning him to the ground and completely immobilizing him they’re protecting him. They’re not medical professionals so they don’t know how to properly diagnose and treat the perp. Hence the ambulance with medical professionals. Floyd was a heart attack waiting to happen. ......You are full of CRAP!... Professionally immobilizing him??? Ya mean professionally immobilizing him by putting pressure on his neck for 6 to 8 minutes dramatically reducing the blood flow to the brain?? Ya mean THAT KIND of PROFESSIONAL immobilization??.............. Yep! You are right. The officers are not medical professionals. HOWEVER and nevertheless, they are TRAINED LEOs who violated detainment procedure by using unreasonable force. You do NOT need to be a medical professional to know that when force is applied to the neck in certain ways for a period of time, it can cause death. Those officers were trained on what to do,,, AND ALSO TRAINED ON WHAT NOT TO DO.... If you had bothered to read the report you’d know the medical examiner found no evidence that the knee to the back of the neck caused any trauma or strangulation. They had to pull the perp out of the vehicle why ? Maybe because he was banging his head against the barrier ? Might want to pin his head down so he doesn’t continue to harm himself until medical transport arrives ? The knee to the neck is visually ugly but it was done properly and was not causing any harm.
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An officer does have a duty to keep someone he thinks may be a danger to himself and others immobilized. Have you ever heard of someone in cuffs hurting themselves or others? How much pressure was the officer applying with his knee? Enough to make it appear as though he killed Mr. Floyd on camera. I guess you had the TV on mute when you watched that documentary.
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It's not a cop's job to evaluate your pre-existing medical conditions when you resist arrest.
Saying "I can't breathe" is proof that you can breathe. Anybody that's taken First Aid training knows this.
All of these circumstances and scenarios have been weighed by the courts tens of thousands of times. The DA knows this isn't going to be a conviction. It's just feel good bullschit. So, in your expert opinion, one can’t verbally report that they are having difficulty breathing, if they’re having difficulty breathing? You can say the words "I'm having difficulty breathing" while you're breathing. So, you don’t recognize a distinction between not breathing and difficulty breathing. This is asinine.
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I don’t believe the officers killed the perp. I see three officers doing a reasonably professional job of restraining a violent perp until he can be transported to the hospital for evaluation. They pin the perp that way so perp can’t hurt themselves or the officers. The “I can’t breathe” means he can breathe fine. They had already called the ambulance to come get him and were obviously unaware he had died before the ambulance arrived. Probably called because he was suspected mentally ill and was violently resisting arrest. The officers only mistake was not paying close attention. In their defense they had no reason to suspect a guy who was just violently resisting was going to die in the ten minutes it took for the ambulance to arrive.
Why are so many campfire members buying the race baiting narrative ? "I can't breathe" were his last words...
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........There is no possible way that any suspect can be of danger to others or to himself when laying flat on his stomach, hands behind his back and hand cuffed.
LOL
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