Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles What does the 7-08 offer that the 308 cannot?

Store "B", Midway USA, carries at least a dozen. Problem solved......

Midway is great, when you're not in a hurry ...


what happens when you fly out to the middle of nowhere, and for some reason your ammo didn't make it with you ... you go to the local corner store or 'outfitter' store to pick up a box or two of factory fodder ... THAT is when 'ammo availability' becomes a factor ...

Trey----tired of that one too...Bring your ammo to the [bleep]' hunt, or be the camp cook........grin

I've never not had my ammo, on any hunt I've been on ...

of course, there is always the potential for a first time ... but I'm betting I won't see mine ... (grin)


so, on point ... where are we meeting, and what are we hunting?! ...

Speaking of ammmo availablity and such I was just in the local gun shop.

For the 7/08 they had 7 different kinds of ammo sitting on the shelf.

For the 308 there was 26 different kinds.

Just in case anyone cares, which I don't.

Dober

I don't either ... but thank you for validating what I was explaining a few posts above this one ... (grin)

Ughhhhhh, It shoots 7mm bullets!

Pposey-I've been a thinking about your post and I am sure you were just boshin us, but you said you weren't so I just gotta wonder out loud about what you said.

You said it has more versitilty for me, I guess I just don't see it. I don't see it as any more versitile and I don't see it any less.

Today I stopped in the local gun shop and they had 7 different kinds of 7/08 ammo on the shelves, and 26 different kinds of 308.
Without totally micro managing this thing to death I guess I see it this way.

You say the 7 has 100's and 120's, I add to that that the 308 has 110's to 130's. Real world about similar speeds and similar applications. What you can do with one you can do with the other. No more versitilty here at least from where I sit.

You also said that the 7 has 140's and that is true, twer it me for the lil 7 I'd also mention that is also has the 145's/150's/154's/160's/168's/175's.

I'd also mention that the 308 has the 140's/150's/155's/165's/168's/180's and of course the 190's and 200's but those last 2 like the 175 in the shorty 7 are not really needed.

So I just can't see the added versitility that the lil 7 has over the lil 30, it pretty mucho seems like apples to apples to me.

While the lil 7 has a bit higher bc's for my way of going about it both are equal to 400 yds, and after that both rounds need either dotz/clicks/ballistic plex and or some help. And of course a good LRF.

The lil 7 will drift a bit less, but in the real world of hunting this just won't matter one bit. If you have to compensate for one you will have to the other as well.

The lil 30 will punch a bit bigger of a whole and the lil 7 will with like kind bullets penetrate a tish bit further. All of this ballistic gack is pretty much micro mgt 201.

You say that the 308 is a weak 06, I would be for guessing the same could be said of the 7/08 and the 280, same old same old.

Now if you truly believe that the 7/08 fills a nitch for you that the 308 wouldn't then nock yourself out, tis your moolah. And I would guess for you and for your mind it does just that, and that is all you've got to satisfy.

Real world bottom line what one will do the other will do and thats the name of that tune.

Just my thoughts on ballistic gack on the lil 30 and the lil 7.

This isn't rocket science unless people choose to make it such.

Dober

I understand your point.....But my point is that I'm sure that most anything appropriate to hunt with a 7-08, could probably be killed with at least one of the 7 different ammo choices. The same store, years ago(if it existed), probably only had 2-3 ammo choices at most, for the really popular calibers. Somehow, these poor, deprived rifleman, still managed to kill stuff just fine without whining about poor ammo selection........

we agree on all of these points ... 10 years ago, not much 7mm-08 ammo ... these days, it's likely that you'll find suitable hunting ammo for your 7mm-08 just about anywhere ... Regardless, the 7mm-08 still has a long way to go before we see the same amount of selection between the 7mm-08 and the .308 ...

regardless of all that, I am perfectly comfortable with my 7mm-08, as should be anyone that owns one ... (grin)

Never knew it was so much trouble to bring ammo on a hunt.
better not get that .308 then, be much safer with a 30/30 or 06 just in case you gotta buy ammo at Wilber's baithouse and antiques.

Another vote for the 308 because. . . . .













(OK I don't have a good reason)

BMT

They're both a little boring to me. But, if I were going with a short/light (Kimber Montana) I'd go 7mm-08. If I was building one of those McMillan M40A-1(HTG)/Mike Rock snipes...I'd be all over the 308!

No need for the 25 Souper (yeah, I know it would be pretty darn neat). 257 Roberts has it goin' on! If I could ever get a 284 Winchester built, there would never be another need for a 7mm.

The 25 Souper is just cool IMO and it will be my next rifle if there is another.

In regards to your question, I converted a 308 to 7mm-08 just because. Having killed only deer and the occasional varmint with both, they are identical. Pick the one you want - all else is just somebody elses wish.

RH

Like I said Mark for ME it is more flexible,,, I handload all my centerfire ammo and the 7mm-08 is a joy to load for,,, any bullet I have ever tried has shot well at any speed, for ME the 7mm-08 rules over the 308,

and according to the Remington Balistics at 100 yards the better BC of the 7mm has already made a difference,,, not that thats the only reason for the 7mm-08,,, there are several that for ME make it a much better choice.

can any one tell me what the recoil of a 7mm-08 140 factory round is compareable to. assuming same gun weight.

is it like a 7x57 or a 300 savage

When I fly to a hunt, I pack my ammo with all my other hunting gear. I'd have a harder time replacing my backpack or boots than ammo. Thus, I'm starting to think this is mostly a non-issue for me.

But, in true loony status, doesn't that mean I need to buy/build the perfect factory ammo rig??

.308.
Proven.
Established.
Undeniably effective.
Not spoken about enough.
The original short action mountain rifle.

AGW

For the long range rifle matchs and tactical shooting don't people usually shoot a .308 or a .223? I really do not seem to read a lot about the 7mm-08 being used much in long distance shooting.