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It makes no difference what he was per say; we all have our opinions, he will be who his defense attorneys frame him to be in the public forum of a trial. He is looking at a criminal trial by the State and a trial by the Feds for violating good citizen George Floyd's civil rights. Everything he worked for in his pension now belongs to his lawyers. The State of Minnesota will send it directly to the law office of his attorney. Passed history, move on.

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Toe the prescribed narrative Slipstream. We have no time for critical thinking that isnt MSM midstream.

No way could this be a planned event designed to fan the flames against Trump or handicapping his economy. Cops squish suspects 9 minutes routinely with cameras running. Nothing unusual there.

the autopsy report lists his name as "George Floyd aka Floyd Perry."

What's with the aka? Nobody I know has an alias.

It is common with criminals once they get convicted of enough crimes. They commonly stop carrying any ID and proclaim to be someone else.

Here you go, Tarq.


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Originally Posted by K22
Floyd and cop worked at bar 10 yrs

Bar owner's mother and obama's mother both attended the same university and studied the same courses during the same overlapping years.

Bar/club under investigation for human trafficking.

Bar burned down.

Precinct where evidence was stored, burned down.

Mayor ordered cops to back down.

Factory/warehouse that produced life like & size dummies for emts and firefighter practice, burned down.

Person who started destroying autozone windows and spray painting on walls was called out as a cop by ex gf via texts and by peaceful protesters.

Cop mugshot vs cop on video don't match.

Added: floyd prior to being on ground and floyd on ground have different hair lines.

Floyd moved to gurney has no legs

Coffin for floyd too short for a man his size and height.

How many coincidences before its mathematically impossible? Not many.

Whoa.... dude, please share what ever you are drinking.

Damn, you smokin catfood again....

I keep hearing about 18 complaints against Chauvin. Here is what we knowabout them. Googled from the Daily Signal:

Past controversies with Chauvin in Minneapolis include these incidents:

In 2005, Chauvin and another officer were involved in a vehicle chase, during which the car they were pursuing hit another vehicle, killing two passengers in that third vehicle, according to the Los Angeles Times and other outlets.

In 2006, Chauvin and five other Minneapolis police officers opened fire on stabbing suspect Wayne Reyes, according to the Associated Press. Reyes aimed a sawed-off shotgun at the officers and they fatally shot him, AP reported. The officers were justified in their actions, a grand jury determined. Chauvin received a medal of valor for his actions.

Also in 2006, a Minnesota inmate filed a civil rights lawsuit against the Minneapolis Police Department, naming several officers, including Chauvin, the Los Angeles Times reported. However, the newspaper reported, court records don’t show specifics and the case was dismissed when the plaintiff didn’t pay a filing fee.

In 2008, after responding to a report of domestic violence, Chauvin shot and wounded an accused batterer, according to Twin Cities Pioneer Press. A woman had called 911, yelling for someone to stop hitting her. When Chauvin and another officer arrived at the apartment, a man identified as Ira Latrell Toles locked himself in a bathroom. Chauvin forced his way into the bathroom and, when Toles tried to grab the officer’s gun, Chauvin shot him twice in the stomach, according to the police account.

Toles was charged with two counts of felony obstruction, but pleaded out to misdemeanor charges. The Minneapolis Police Department placed Chauvin on administrative leave while reviewing the shooting.

In an interview with The Daily Beast after the Floyd killing, Toles denied trying to take Chauvin’s gun in the 2008 case. Toles claimed that Chauvin broke into the bathroom and began beating him up, and that he was defending himself. Toles said the mother of his child had called police.

For his actions, police gave Chauvin the second medal of valor.

In 2011, Chauvin was among officers who chased after a man with a handgun on foot. Police said Chauvin’s partner shot the man, identified as Leroy Martinez. The department placed both officers on administrative leave. Martinez, a Native American, subsequently was charged in a separate shooting incident.
In 2013, a group of teens filed a complaint against Chauvin and another officer, saying at least one pulled his service revolver after one teen shot a Nerf gun that might have struck another person, BuzzFeed reported. The department notified the complainants of a review for “inappropriate language and attitude.” The teens reportedly were white.

The Daily Signal specified each of these listed cases in an email to Nelson, Chauvin’s lawyer.

The Minneapolis Police Department’s internal affairs records are in an online database, but it provides no details on the nature of the complaints and accusations, according to several media reports.

Details of the formal complaints described here came through a combination of court documents, old news reports, and information from Gross’ group, Communities United Against Police Brutality.

Johnson, of the Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund, said a clearly out-of-control, lawless officer probably would have been the subject of more complaints.

“Certainly police departments have a responsibility to ensure that problem officers are dealt with, whether they need to be retrained or they need discipline or [to] be removed from the police department,” Johnson said. “But because there is so little information about what underlies these complaints, what the outcomes of any investigations were, and what if any disciplinary action was taken, we don’t have enough information to know that the Minneapolis Police Department acted properly.”

Three other officers have been arrested and charged as accomplices with aiding and abetting second-degree murder.

They were at the scene May 25 as Chauvin pressed a knee into Floyd’s neck as he lay handcuffed on the pavement.

The Daily Signal left voicemail messages with lawyers for all three former officers.

One of the three officers, Tou Thao, reportedly has six complaints listed in the department’s database, none showing a disciplinary action. One complaint against Thao remains open, but likely won’t be adjudicated since he was fired the day after Floyd’s death, along with the others.

The two former officers charged as accomplices along with Thao are Thomas Lane and J. Alexander Kueng, both reportedly rookies on their fourth day on the job. Lane held Floyd’s legs and Kueng held Floyd’s back while Thao stood nearby, “keeping onlookers back,” AP reported.

“This guy literally left a trail of broken and dead bodies on his way to the jail,” Gross, of the Communities United Against Police Brutality, said of Chauvin. “The idea that he was allowed to continue on the force meant that almost certainly something like this was going to happen.”

Law enforcement officials and organizations strongly condemned the conduct of the officers involved in Floyd’s death.

Minneapolis used to have a citizens review board to adjudicate complaints, Gross said, but the city disempowered the board to the point of essentially putting the government in charge.

“In seven and a half years, they have adjudicated about 2,600 or so complaints,” Gross said. “They have sustained and disciplined 12 of those. That’s less than half of a percent. The national average for civilian oversight bodies is 7% to 8%. We are like the low-end outlier for the country.”

Because a police department spokesman did not respond to inquiries, The Daily Signal was unable to confirm those numbers.

The criminal charges against Chauvin are compelling in the Floyd case, but that doesn’t mean the prior complaints against him were an indictment of the Minneapolis police force, said John Malcolm, director of the Meese Center for Legal and Judicial Studies at The Heritage Foundation.

Malcolm said the 18 misconduct complaints about Chauvin “could be a red flag,” but added that the number in and of itself doesn’t mean he should have been fired or put behind a desk.

In the big picture, not specific to Chauvin, systems across the nation for resolving citizen complaints against police can be abused.

“We also know of instances when gang members and drug dealers make complaints on really good officers, to get them put on administrative leave,” Malcolm told The Daily Signal. “In some cases, complaints could be racked up because an officer is a good cop.”

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I give Chauvin a pat on the back based on the story copied above by Indy.Every police department in America could use a cop like him to kick some bad guy ass.

Well, he may have committed second degree murder, but who would you rather have protecting your town?

Chauvin, a social worker, or a criminal bum like George Floyd?

Thats an easy choice.

I had a State Trooper neighbor, since retired, who was a real prick.

But, I was told, if you were ever taking fire in a fox hole, he'd be the one you'd want in there with you.

So, there you have it. Hard to have it both ways.

Df

Well, probably not.

I personally think it would be good policing to NOT run the dog around every vehicle they come across. No matter the race, color, creed, sexual orientation of the driver. It may just be me and the way I was taught and grew up, but a non functioning license plate light does not seem to constitute probable cause to search my vehicle. Sure, I'm on "public property", which is likely why the courts have upheld the practice, but again, to me, it's akin to using thermal imaging to look into my house without cause.

1984 Big Brother scheidt if you ask me, solving crimes that don't yet exist.

Then again, I'm just a grumpy old boomer.

Watch COPs on tv; you'll see they usually smell marihuana, or someone in the car has a warrant. have you ever been searched for a license plate light being out?

Were you born stupid or did you have to work at it?

Specifically for the plate light? No.

But I've been pulled over on a felony stop, handcuffed, returned to the car with a pistol to my head while surrounded by 7 San Diego sheriff's officers with guns drawn and held aimed at the car over the cover of their cars, the helicopter overhead with the lights making daylight for all, and the trunk of my car opened and searched...........all on a case of mistaken identity. The only reason they didn't search the whole car was the fact there was an 80 lb lab in the front seat and by that time they had realized their mistake. They were looking for a person, not drugs, and they could see through the windows of the car there was no-one besides my dog in there.

I wasn't particularly happy with the way my evening started out, and lest you think I'm "anti-cop", when I found out who they were after and why I told the officer who held a gun to my head that if they do catch the guy, just shoot him. The judge will just lock him up again in the mental ward and he'll get out and maybe cause another good citizen to go through what I just did. And perhaps make a mistake and get themselves shot.

I was complimented by the "arresting officer" on how I handled the stop, was told I did everything perfectly. I told him that having LEOs in the family let me know exactly what was up and this wasn't a "turn signal" stop. At that, I still had to ask the guy handling me to tell the rookie with the shotgun pointed at us to calm down before we both got shot.

Cops can "smell marihuana," just about anywhere if they want to. Especially if they have a good suspicion who's in the car.

No reason in the world the guy that pulled me over couldn't have checked his computer to see that in 48 years of driving there's a grand total of 3 speeding tickets on my record, no arrests or convictions, probably gotten a picture of my DL photo and compared it to the guy in the car and the license I handed him, and he'd have known there really was no logical reason whatsoever to run the dog around my car. Except for the odd chance that Geno was going into a new business running drugs 3 miles from his house in Cattle Country California. And he could have scored a bust for that. Odds would be highly unlikely, maybe the public would be better served by him patrolling some more?

Oh

But, my vehicle was "searched".