Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire So, which of the 6 theories of Evolution do you unbelievers believe in?

antlers,

What then.?
I'm not sure what your answer will be, but I suspect after reading some of your positions you might respond with "the resurrection."

But I speculate here, and not wanting to put words in your mouth I respectfully await your answer(s).

And understand please that I'm not pretending to have a position, i am just putting the question to you out of interest.

thank you.

Christians are instructed to spread the gospel, so when discussions on the origin of the world pop up, we engage in these debates out of love for our fellow man and concern for their souls (even though it seems futile). I am not sure what motivates non-believers.

Understood completely. Which is why hopefully Christians will realize that Christ is a false god and following him is the pathway to hell. It is my love of my fellow man and my concern for their souls (even though it seems futile). I am not sure what motivates christians to follow a false prophet.

I pray for their souls.

Far out, what god is it that you are praying to? Where did you hear about him/her/it? What are the tenets of your faith? Sounds like you have a hell, too. What a coinkydink.

Far out, what god is it that you are praying to? Where did you hear about him/her/it? What are the tenets of your faith? Sounds like you have a hell, too. What a coinkydink.

His god is GOD.

ever heard the saying "Praise God and Pass the Ammo"?

. I believe it is more about Starman and antelope sniper and others seeking validation from others that their believe in an absence of God justifies and validates their belief of no greater power than man in the universe,

Thankfully man will never disprove the existence of Odin, Tor, Freya, Loki, Balder and all the other Gods my ancestors followed... or the other 20.000+++ Gods other people belive in.

'...For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?...”

Where have I ever stated that No Form [of what
you chose to call God ] exists?

Who says any such God is actually like the Judeo
Christian primitive narrative one?


Countless unanswered prayers do not support
a christian God... and stories of miracles that
Christians say could all be allegorical /myth
do not support a Christian God.

One has got as much chance of succcess praying
to what Christians call false gods.

Christians are basically saying their feeble imaginations
are superior to all others.

A question for the literalists and young Earth believers.

We know there have been nine species within our Homo genus, including the "Red Deer Cave People" in China, H naledi in S Africa, the hobbits of the Phillipines- H luzonensis, H rhodesiensis of Central Africa.

We know that H neanderthalensis and H denisova lived alongside H sapiens and crossbred between the species. Many of us today carry DNA from one or both of these ancient species.

Where did the archeological evidence of these protohumans come from?

How did these other species cross breed with God's special chosen creation?

How many proto humans had a soul? Did Cro-Magnon have a soul?

Which cross breeds might have had a soul?

Finally, how did this all happen in 6000 to 7000 years since creation?

You and AS and the rest of the swine will just have to live with the fact that numerous Christians believe by faith the Holy Bible is the inherent word of God spoken through the prophets. You don't like it, too bad, and believe what you wish. just as I will do. Like I told the intellectually dishonest AS many times before, some day we'll see won't we?

Nobody is getting in the way of your free will
personal beliefs... so why are you so butthurt?

You follow people around on this CF forum questionIng
them with an axe to grind, but don't like Christianity
being questioned,

why the double standard?

Why do you carry resentment and personal grudges?

s.

Those details are unknowable.

It didn't. Our ancestry goes back to the Precambrian.

Gen 1:9-13 9 Then God said, “Let the waters below the heavens be gathered into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so. 10 God called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas; and God saw that it was good. 11 Then God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them”; and it was so. 12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God saw that it was good. 13 There was evening and there was morning, a third day.

So, in a 24 hr stretch of time.....
1. God caused dry land to appear.
2. God caused plants to grow (actually sprout from the earth, so it began as a seed...... not a mature plant)
3. The seed sprouted and grew to maturity.
4. The mature plants produced new seeds and/or fruits.
5. Multiple generations grew and covered the earth.

All of that in 24 hours?

I'm not sure this is about winning or losing. I believe it is more about Starman and antelope sniper and others seeking validation from others that their believe in an absence of God justifies and validates their belief of no greater power than man in the universe, and jaguartx and others merely stating their acceptance of the presence of God in their life and beliefs. It amazes me that the the non-believers in God must continuously blow these threads up to validate their reasoning and prove the believers in the existence of God wrong and ridicule them for their beliefs. I tend to side with the opinion of renegade about the whole thing and see no need to quote Einstein or the Freedom From Religion website to prove someone else with a different opinion wrong if they don't believe the same as I do and aren't willing to validate my beliefs also. If you don't believe in a greater presence than man, just move along and be comfortable in your own opinions and beliefs.

A question for the literalists and young Earth believers.

We know there have been nine species within our Homo genus, including the "Red Deer Cave People" in China, H naledi in S Africa, the hobbits of the Phillipines- H luzonensis, H rhodesiensis of Central Africa.

We know that H neanderthalensis and H denisova lived alongside H sapiens and crossbred between the species. Many of us today carry DNA from one or both of these ancient species.

Where did the archeological evidence of these protohumans come from?

How did these other species cross breed with God's special chosen creation?

How many proto humans had a soul? Did Cro-Magnon have a soul?

Which cross breeds might have had a soul?

Finally, how did this all happen in 6000 to 7000 years since creation?

Hebrew word "boqor" can mean morning or dawn, but generally can mean the beginning (or "dawn") of any length period of time.
Hebrew word "ereb" can mean sunset or night, but generally can mean the ending of any length period of time.

Read Psalm 90:6 In the morning it [grass] flourishes, and sprouts anew; Toward evening it fades, and withers away.

Do you know of any grass that sprouts in the morning and dies the same day? No, it refers to a period of time greater than 12 or 24 hour, much more.


Likewise, the Hebrew word "Yom" is translated as "day". The Hebrew word and the English word can mean:
8 hours- I work and 8 hour day.
12 hours- Daylight lasts 12 hours.
24 hours- a whole day is the length of time it takes for the Earth to revolve once.
4 years- Ie. "In my day, I was a great college football player. "

In the Bible, Yom, ereb, and bogor are used these ways, sometimes to mean morning, evening, 24 hours or any number of beginnings, endings, or time periods.

You actually don't have to go very far to see an example of this.....
Gen 2:4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made earth and heaven.[color:#CC0000][/color]
Now, Genesis 1 refers to 6 days of Creation. Gen 2:4 says that it was 1 day (the day). If you are going to demand that Yom means 24 hours specifically, then what do you do with Gen 2:4? It calls 6 days "1 day".

No it does not always mean 24 hours., Yom can mean 24 hours or 24 years or 240 million years.

Maybe it's some of that fruit of the spirit stuff being revealed, you know "..love, joy, peace patience...etc"
Aren't you just feeling the love of jesus flowin' Starman..?