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Draw a 50 mile radius from any KFC, Church’s, Zaxby’s, Popeyes, etc. and be on a couple of miles of dirt road. You should be good to go. 😂 Happy Trails Bob
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Most countries allow dual citizenship. The USA doesn't. Canadians who become US citizens automatically retain Cnanadian citizenship too.
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Whatever you do, do not renounce US citizenship. The US has a law that lets them confiscate most of your assets if you do.
The US does allow dual citizenship. I know a number of people with dual citizenship in the US and some other country, usually Canada. Years ago the US stripped anyone of US citizenship who became a citizen in another country, but that changed. Someone took citizenship elsewhere and then sued the US State department for revoking his citizenship against his will. Courts upheld his US citizenship. The US State department didn't like it and kept it low profile. I read the resulting document which strongly discouraged a US citizen from becoming a citizen in any other country and warned that doing so risked losing US citizenship. I asked the US counsel in another country about the risk of losing US citizenship, and got this reply, verbally, “I have to warn you that you may lose your US citizenship. Off the record, not a chance.” If you consider taking citizenship elsewhere, learn all you can about tax laws and unintended consequences. Most countries tax residents, but the US taxes citizenship, no matter where in the world the citizen lives. Most taxes are paid in one country or the other but there are a few things that are double taxed, with both nations claiming certain capital gains, or one country taxing something that is tax free in the other, etc. The problem is that until they hit you with some blind tax, or a new reporting rule, you don't know what you don’t know. Consulting a lawyer and a tax accountant who specialize in dual filings and cross border laws is worth the money. There are usually some downsides to dual citizenship, as well as some advantages, and each person has to decide if his situation makes the negatives worthwhile.
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I’ve been to 8 or 9 other countries and most of the states and I don’t want to move out of my state.
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Anyone here thought about it? Born raised here of course. Never even been to another country and never even considered visiting as there is so much to see here. But...wife and I joked about moving the other day. Yep grass isn't greener on the other side. I get it. Plus with kids family here not feasible. Anyone else considered this and if so where? I dont wonder about other country,s. People glowingly talk of this, that, or the other about em. How marvelous and charming they are, their unique culture and people.... PFFFFFT...... Been all over the planet myself in jolly green giant clothes and roles and civilian clothes and roles. As fugged up as our nation seems. None of em on the rest of planet even comes close to us at all. Only place I can say that seemed to me a decent place was Canada. But most of their rights are gone or going. Hey Canada... Thats what happens when you elect a phagggggg. The Trudeau,s are your Kennedy,s LOL!! Europe to include Britain. PFFFFT. Asia PFFFT.. Middle east Huge PFFFFFT. Central America Our own 3rd world neighbors PFFFT... Africa/ Morroco PFFFFT... others I aint been too, like say Australia off the top of my head. who have lost alot of their firearm ownership rights. My wide swath blanket statements apply to all them also.... And the stooooopid 23 and me schitt people hold so dear... Your fugging american....... You aint picking rotten potatoes outta the ground in Ireland circa 1857... Or fugging living in a schithole villiage in europe anymore with a dirt floor circa 1522....... And you had nothing to do with what sir D of bag did in 1707 at the seige of Gilbralter, that your paid for lineage back ground chart supposedly said whom you were related too. LMFAO!!!!
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If I ever went back to living in America, Northern idaho would be about the only place.
The only true cost of having a dog is its death.
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If I ever went back to living in America, Northern idaho would be about the only place. shhhhhh
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If America wasn't destined to become a combination of El Norte and Sub Saharan Africa, not many people would ever think about leaving here. But life is going to hard for American Caucasians when they are no longer the majority,..and it's coming fast.
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Outside the US? Nope. There are still some areas that don’t have many SJW types. They like to be close to cities. I’m staying put until I see a certain percentage of uptick in some populations. Before it reaches that point I’ll sell out if I’m still alive and find a cozy semi remote spot with some acreage, live a low key lifestyle as always.
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Were one to decide to run away from America I suggest Haiti. You'll understand quickly why this land is worth fighting for. And why Trump labeled such lands chittholes. A friend of mine spent a year in India. When he came back he was incredibly patriotic.
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Anyone considered East KY? East KY is nice but comes with its own problems, mainly social and economic. If you go there, take money with you because the economy is more depressed than East TN, from what I can tell. Jobs are few and far between. Most of the hillbilly stuff on TV and in popular culture is horseshit, the people in East KY are mostly just like anyone else in a rural area. Suspicious of outsiders but friendly enough once you get to know them, as long as you don't act like a douchebag. There is a bad drug problem though, and the social trappings of a welfare-dependant economy are pretty widespread.
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If I ever went back to living in America, Northern idaho would be about the only place. shhhhhh And not a word about, say, Yellow Pine, Calder, Avery, etc. (if I remember names correctly)....  Flippin FS has the homestead cabin at Bg Creek, FCWA, damn them. Them Sheepeater Injuns knew their country!
The only true cost of having a dog is its death.
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NWT or Kamchatka. New Zealand has a great number of rules about what you can bring in and could cut into gun ownership rights quickly. I think if you lived away from Christchurch it would be ok. I don't think that give a great deal of concern about the government in NWT or like Magadon. Greenland maybe a winner if they de-couple from Denmark. Lots of California headed to Idaho and with Kanye West moving part time to Wyoming, even its future is less than bright. I think I will just stay in Alaska. I will move to SE Alaska if I ever get tired of the cold.
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Wyoming and Idaho are on my short list. Even the old lady is getting sick of this place I think...
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How many people here have honestly "lived" outside the US - and I don't mean an extended vacation or a short-term work assignment?
You have 3 choices:
1) Another 1st world country - really, truly first world. And only a few. UK, France, Germany, Japan, Belgium, parts of Spain, Canada, and a few others.
The electricity runs 24/7, you have shops and restaurants open at night and with a good choice, you have safe areas - you have "things" that you take for granted.
But these countries taxation, socially liberal, and socialistic tendencies are worse than what you think you would be running from. And aside from Japan, you have the Muslim to contend with...
2) 2nd world country - South Africa, some Caribbean locations, perhaps Thailand, etc. The electricity goes off - often. In many places you have to drink bottled water. The stores sometimes have and sometimes don't have things you need/want. Simple things - bleach, detergents, washing machines ... don't exactly get you the results you are used to.
3) 3rd world - Caribbean nations, Latin America countries, etc. Argue all you want, but they are 3rd world scheit holes when you get off the Club Med compound. Electricity is a crap shoot. Have heart burn at 11pm? Have fun .... Get a pain in your right side .... pray it isn't appendicitis.
Of course, you can go to an "ex-pat" retiree compound and live the life of luxury. But it isn't.
Not after you settle in. Your "new" house has a problem with electricity burning out bulbs ... live with it. The "public" water pressure goes down during the heavy season ..... get used to bailing pool water with a bucket to replenish your toilet bowl so you can flush your turd down ....
Those nice people in the local town who you think are your friends?? Wait until one day a local throws themselves in front of your car outside a shop, and you slam on your brakes and barely bump them. Then the local police come ..... they don't have courts, police, lawyers, and the system you are used to .... you will reach into your pocket and pull out some green to pay them off, and you will have that on you because you will have witnessed another ex-pat get hauled off to the local jail and kept their 2 days until his wife brought the cash in!
People have no phfuking comprehension what it's like living outside the US, and the value of the freedoms, protections, rights, and services we have.
You go to another country to live, in essence you are there as an invited, tolerated guests that last as long as they wish, and to what extent their tolerance goes ... depending on who you may piss off, who is related to whom, and how much you are willing to bow your head in submission ....
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The US of A is our home and just needs a little attitude adjustment to be back to normal.
Life is good live it while you can.
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No desire to leave.
If I were looking, I'd look hard at Argentina. Beautiful country, 4 seasons, they like beef.
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How many people here have honestly "lived" outside the US - and I don't mean an extended vacation or a short-term work assignment?
You have 3 choices:
1) Another 1st world country - really, truly first world. And only a few. UK, France, Germany, Japan, Belgium, parts of Spain, Canada, and a few others.
The electricity runs 24/7, you have shops and restaurants open at night and with a good choice, you have safe areas - you have "things" that you take for granted.
But these countries taxation, socially liberal, and socialistic tendencies are worse than what you think you would be running from. And aside from Japan, you have the Muslim to contend with...
2) 2nd world country - South Africa, some Caribbean locations, perhaps Thailand, etc. The electricity goes off - often. In many places you have to drink bottled water. The stores sometimes have and sometimes don't have things you need/want. Simple things - bleach, detergents, washing machines ... don't exactly get you the results you are used to.
3) 3rd world - Caribbean nations, Latin America countries, etc. Argue all you want, but they are 3rd world scheit holes when you get off the Club Med compound. Electricity is a crap shoot. Have heart burn at 11pm? Have fun .... Get a pain in your right side .... pray it isn't appendicitis.
Of course, you can go to an "ex-pat" retiree compound and live the life of luxury. But it isn't.
Not after you settle in. Your "new" house has a problem with electricity burning out bulbs ... live with it. The "public" water pressure goes down during the heavy season ..... get used to bailing pool water with a bucket to replenish your toilet bowl so you can flush your turd down ....
Those nice people in the local town who you think are your friends?? Wait until one day a local throws themselves in front of your car outside a shop, and you slam on your brakes and barely bump them. Then the local police come ..... they don't have courts, police, lawyers, and the system you are used to .... you will reach into your pocket and pull out some green to pay them off, and you will have that on you because you will have witnessed another ex-pat get hauled off to the local jail and kept their 2 days until his wife brought the cash in!
People have no phfuking comprehension what it's like living outside the US, and the value of the freedoms, protections, rights, and services we have.
You go to another country to live, in essence you are there as an invited, tolerated guests that last as long as they wish, and to what extent their tolerance goes ... depending on who you may piss off, who is related to whom, and how much you are willing to bow your head in submission ....
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ In spades. Extremely well stated
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Yep Ive spent almost 7 years living and working overseas. Its hilarious when Americans romanticize how much better life would be outside the US. How many people here have honestly "lived" outside the US - and I don't mean an extended vacation or a short-term work assignment?
You have 3 choices:
1) Another 1st world country - really, truly first world. And only a few. UK, France, Germany, Japan, Belgium, parts of Spain, Canada, and a few others.
The electricity runs 24/7, you have shops and restaurants open at night and with a good choice, you have safe areas - you have "things" that you take for granted.
But these countries taxation, socially liberal, and socialistic tendencies are worse than what you think you would be running from. And aside from Japan, you have the Muslim to contend with...
2) 2nd world country - South Africa, some Caribbean locations, perhaps Thailand, etc. The electricity goes off - often. In many places you have to drink bottled water. The stores sometimes have and sometimes don't have things you need/want. Simple things - bleach, detergents, washing machines ... don't exactly get you the results you are used to.
3) 3rd world - Caribbean nations, Latin America countries, etc. Argue all you want, but they are 3rd world scheit holes when you get off the Club Med compound. Electricity is a crap shoot. Have heart burn at 11pm? Have fun .... Get a pain in your right side .... pray it isn't appendicitis.
Of course, you can go to an "ex-pat" retiree compound and live the life of luxury. But it isn't.
Not after you settle in. Your "new" house has a problem with electricity burning out bulbs ... live with it. The "public" water pressure goes down during the heavy season ..... get used to bailing pool water with a bucket to replenish your toilet bowl so you can flush your turd down ....
Those nice people in the local town who you think are your friends?? Wait until one day a local throws themselves in front of your car outside a shop, and you slam on your brakes and barely bump them. Then the local police come ..... they don't have courts, police, lawyers, and the system you are used to .... you will reach into your pocket and pull out some green to pay them off, and you will have that on you because you will have witnessed another ex-pat get hauled off to the local jail and kept their 2 days until his wife brought the cash in!
People have no phfuking comprehension what it's like living outside the US, and the value of the freedoms, protections, rights, and services we have.
You go to another country to live, in essence you are there as an invited, tolerated guests that last as long as they wish, and to what extent their tolerance goes ... depending on who you may piss off, who is related to whom, and how much you are willing to bow your head in submission ....
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What's missing in this thread is not to move, but to take back our own country. Doesn't seem to be much of an appetite for that anymore.
Like our President said: These areas of unrest could be quelled in about an hour. Exactly how has this socialistic mindset come into being?
There's a very simple answer. Globalist funding, planning, and the infiltration/ownership of the Democratic Party.
President Trump is going after the Globalist and it's a job so intense, that none of us can fully understand the scope of this undertaking.
Like Schumer said: "We have seven ways to Sunday to get you."
Until we attack those who are attacking us, we're doomed.
Our dilemma is, where and how to start. We have the greatest administrative leader in the White House that we could possibly have, and I do believe this was ordained. I don't believe any of us fully understand the scope of the worldwide oppression President Trump is fielding.
What we're lacking, is a leader within the "ground game".
Make Gitmo Great Again!!
Who gave the order to stop counting votes in the swing states on the night of November 3/4, 2020?
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