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After killing Afghans for a decade,who in their right mind would believe the Afghans would ever negotiate with the Ruskies?


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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...9a701dc_story.html?utm_source=reddit.com

Russian bounties offered to Taliban-linked militants to kill coalition forces in Afghanistan are believed to have resulted in the deaths of several U.S. service members, according to intelligence gleaned from U.S. military interrogations of captured militants in recent months.

Several people familiar with the matter said it was unclear exactly how many Americans or coalition troops from other countries may have been killed or targeted under the program. U.S. forces in Afghanistan suffered a total of 10 deaths from hostile gunfire or improvised bombs in 2018, and 16 in 2019. Two have been killed this year. In each of those years, several service members were also killed by what are known as “green on blue” hostile incidents by members of Afghan security forces, which are sometimes believed to have been infiltrated by the Taliban.

The intelligence was passed up from the U.S. Special Operations forces based in Afghanistan and led to a restricted high-level White House meeting in late March, the people said.

The meeting led to broader discussions about possible responses to the Russian action, ranging from diplomatic expressions of disapproval and warnings, to sanctions, according to two of the people. These people and others who discussed the matter spoke on the condition of anonymity because of its sensitivity.

The disturbing intelligence — which the CIA was tasked with reviewing, and later confirmed — generated disagreement about the appropriate path forward, a senior U.S. official said. The administration’s special envoy for Afghanistan, Zalmay Khalilzad, preferred confronting the Russians directly about the matter, while some National Security Council officials in charge of Russia were more dismissive of taking immediate action, the official said.

It remained unclear where those discussions have led to date. Verifying such intelligence is a process that can take weeks, typically involving the CIA and the National Security Agency, which captures foreign cellphone and radio communications. Final drafting of any policy options in response would be the responsibility of national security adviser Robert C. O’Brien.

Pelosi and Bolton expressed concern on June 28 about reports that President Trump was briefed on a Russia effort to target U.S. forces in Afghanistan. (Meg Kelly/The Washington Post)
The CIA assessment took some time, and coincided with the scaling back and slowing down of a number of government functions as the coronavirus pandemic began to take hold, two people said.

Asked to comment, John Ullyot, an NSC spokesman, said that “the veracity of the underlying allegations continue to be evaluated.” The CIA and the Defense and State departments declined to comment.

Russia and the Taliban have denied the existence of the program.

Among the coalition of NATO forces in Afghanistan, the British were briefed late last week on the intelligence assessment, although other alliance governments were not formally informed. The New York Times first reported the existence of the bounty program on Friday evening.

But as more details have unfolded, the primary controversy in Washington over the weekend revolved around denials by President Trump and his aides that the president was ever briefed on the intelligence.

Trump on Sunday confirmed statements by Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe and the White House press secretary that he received no briefing on the subject, and he referred in tweets to “so-called reports” by “Fake News.”

“Nobody briefed or told me, [Vice President] Pence or Chief of Staff [Mark Meadows] about the so-called attacks on our troops in Afghanistan by Russians, as reported through an ‘anonymous source’ by the Fake News . . . Everybody is denying it & there have not been many attacks on us,” Trump said on Twitter, insisting that “nobody’s been tougher on Russia than the Trump administration.”

But his Twitter remarks did little to clarify whether the administration was denying that the assessment existed, or simply denying that Trump knew anything about it. Richard Grenell, who served as acting director of national intelligence until last month, tweeted that “I never heard this. And it’s disgusting how you continue to politicize intelligence.”

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Sunday joined other lawmakers — including leading Republicans — in expressing concern and calling for the administration to provide Congress with an explanation.

“This is as bad as it gets, and yet the president will not confront the Russians on this score, denies being briefed,” Pelosi said on ABC News’s “This Week.”

“But he wants to ignore,” she said, “he wants to bring them back to the G-8 despite the annexation of Crimea and invasion of Ukraine, despite what they yielded to [Putin] in Syria, despite [Russian President Vladimir Putin’s] intervention into our election, which is well documented by our intelligence community, and despite now possibly this allegation, which we should have been briefed on.”

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), a Trump ally who golfed with the president Sunday, earlier tweeted that “I expect the Trump Administration to take such allegations seriously and inform Congress immediately as to the reliability of these news reports.”

In a second tweet, Graham said it was “Imperative Congress get to the bottom” of the Russian offer “to pay the Taliban to kill American soldiers with the goal of pushing America out of the region.”

Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), the third-highest-ranking member of the House GOP leadership, also took to Twitter on Sunday to say that if the report of Russian bounties “is true, the White House must explain” why the president wasn’t briefed, who did know and when, and “what has been done in response to protect our forces & hold Putin responsible.”

A third person familiar with the issue said that “I don’t think that anybody withheld anything and screwed up by not getting to the president on time.” Until “you were absolutely sure of the intelligence and the NSC had drawn up policy options, you weren’t going to walk into the Oval Office,” the person said.

So the issue is not when the president was briefed, the person said, but rather, “now that you are aware of it, what are you going to do about it? That’s where the focus should be.”

In years past, there were persistent reports that Russia was supplying small arms to the Taliban. Carter Malkasian, who served as a senior adviser to the previous chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., said Russia had cultivated a relationship with certain Taliban elements, largely in northern Afghanistan, beginning around 2015. The outreach was partly as a response to Moscow’s concerns about the threat posed by Islamic State militants in the region, and also out of a desire to see U.S. troops leave the region.

But more recently, U.S. officials said that Russia — which tried and failed to start its own Afghan peace process — has been cooperative and helpful since the Taliban signed a peace deal, including a plan for U.S. withdrawal, with the administration early this year.

Malkasian, now a scholar at CNA, said the bounty operation, if true, could be a “random” initiative, rather than one that reflected a well-coordinated program ordered by the highest levels of the government.

He said that a primary Russian goal in Afghanistan continues to be the exit of American forces, but not at any cost.

“They may want us out, and they may be happy to see a few Americans die,” he said, “but I don’t think they want to see the Taliban take over.”


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Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by johnw
... assassination of Anastasio Somoza, Asuncion, 1980. The U.S. and it's "friend for a day" foreign policy at it's best.
..


You don't think the Somoza Dynasty painted a target on
on its own back after assisting the US Bay of Pigs....

The Shan of Iran was another who created his own
problems through his delusions and sham reforms
and the tyranny the CIA and SAVAK unleashed on
the Iranian people.
All together such efforts didn't do much to keep the
Shah on good terms.




Somoza was a graduate of West Point, and a staunch western ally. He undoubtedly ran rough over his own country, but he did so with the full support of U.S. foreign policy. And with the backing of many of our "instruments of foreign policy". His family supported the founding of the State of Israel, and when the Sandinista's threatened to overthrow Somoza's government the Israeli's responded by sending arms to Somoza for defense.

The Carter administration blocked transit of the final ship carrying the Israeli arms, which precipitated the fall of the Somoza regime. When Somoza fled Nicaragua, he flew to the U.S., but the Carter administration denied his entry. He then fled to Paraguay, where he was assassinated in 1980.

Somoza was in no wise a good guy. Never a just man, or ruler. He was about as corrupt as they come. But he was corrupt before we groomed him as an asset and used him. We groomed and facilitated his corruption for our own purposes. He was our "friend" until he wasn't.

And in a like manor we supplied and funded the mujaheddin in the mid 1980s. They weren't a great bunch of guys then. Not a great bunch of guys now. But we were their biggest and best supporter until one meeting between the U.S, and The USSR, and one letter of understanding cut that support off at the knees. They were our "friends" til they weren't.

As for the Shah, we put him into power in 1953. We clandestinely destroyed Mossadegh's legitimate govt and installed the Shah. Who, and you guessed it, was our friend until he wasn't.

And in a bit different manor;

Zaire in the 1970s was a major strategic supplier of copper and chromium. And the U.S., in support, supplied scientific and technical support that was denied to the entire continent of Africa by U.S. policy at that time
The U.S. also spent a lot of resources trying to prove Cuban(Russian) involvement in a lot of the unrest in Western Africa. The Cubans in turn spent huge Soviet resources to embarrass the U.S. by documenting their policy violations in Zaire.
When the FFL jumped into Kolwezi, supported by the US, it was heralded as a rescue and relief effort. The biggest relief was felt by those who had violated US policy to facilitate US dominance.




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Why always with the lies? And Russia?

If they did, they did! How is that Trumps fault? And how is it any worse than the Chineese releasing the Wuh Flu on the world, or hillary selling our uranium to the Russians, or Biden getting his kid a megabuck job with the Ukraine?

NYT, dems, rinos, antifa, blm, commies. All totally worthless.

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