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As of today NAFTA is dead. Trump's America First USMCA trade deal takes over immediately.

Ross Perot was right, the NAFTA trade deal bled this country dry of manufacturing and middle class jobs.

I watched as the concrete industry was taken over by Mexico. Auto industry was decimated. Main street America suffered for globalism.


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It’s amazing watching cuckservatives say with a straight face that we need free trade and that American ingenuity will win out while ignoring that places like Mexico play by a whole different set of standards paying workers .50 cents an hour with zero benefits.

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And I'm willing to bet many here wouldn't didn't vote for the short fella


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My first time voting. I went for Perot.


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My first time voting for president, Perot. The old man told me I just wasted my vote, should've voted for Bush.
Perot was right. And had more intelligence and integrity than the other two combined.



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All I know is that Perot has pure evil on either side of him.

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As for the Coronavirus and the Chinese infecting us purposely, would there need be any other motivation than President Trump besting them on this? Then again, can you really say it's the "Chinese" any more than Pelosi getting her way and them saying it's the Americans?

A huge victory for Nationalism brought about by Donald Trump.

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Perot and Al Gore debated NAFTA on the national stage when NAFTA was being debated.....Trump proved Perot was right.

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Nobody is cheering in timber producing states...we got f''''kt AGAIN. The entire chapter concerning Canadian softwood imports was adopted and incorporated into USMCA from NAFTA.
Basically, the Canadian government almost gives Crown timber to their industry to keep it alive. American producers have to pay full market value, about 5 times more. Nobody can compete with those numbers. The US timber industry was hurt with enviro regulations...but it was Slick Willy's NAFTA deal that was the death stab. He did a trade off with the Canadians, protected union auto jobs for the sellout of the timber jobs.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
My first time voting. I went for Perot.


Wasn’t my first time but I did also.

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Originally Posted by Valsdad
And I'm willing to bet many here wouldn't didn't vote for the short fella


I just happened to be in Chitcago at a training school at the time of that election or I would have voted for him. I was 26 years old at that time.

Being 26 at the time though I can remember Slick Willie playing the sax on MTV and thinking "this guys getting elected" and realizing he was a Hack even then.

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Originally Posted by Valsdad
And I'm willing to bet many here wouldn't didn't vote for the short fella



I liked Perot but I didn't vote for him because I didn't want slick willy to become President, I knew that Clinton in the White House would be very bad I just didn't know how bad.


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I was young and didn’t honk voting mattered at that time. I was to busy struggling thru life. Looking back except for Trump I believe I was right. All the swamp creatures were in it together. Not saying Perot was because I did not know anything about that. Ed k

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Originally Posted by jackmountain
My first time voting for president, Perot. The old man told me I just wasted my vote, should've voted for Bush.
Perot was right. And had more intelligence and integrity than the other two combined.



I don't know Valsdad, I feel like I am usually in line with you, but
If no one had, we might have wound up with the presumptive republican candidate in '16 as opposed to the non-politician.

Who was the presumptive candidate again?


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Perot was right about a lot of things, but he should have limited his campaign to the Republican primaries. If he couldn't get the R nomination, shut up and help Bush win; then he might have had some influence on what came after. Instead, we got the Clintons and have been plagued with them ever since. I voted for Bush, knew that a vote for Perot was only going to help Clinton.

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Originally Posted by jackmountain
My first time voting for president, Perot. The old man told me I just wasted my vote, should've voted for Bush.
Perot was right. And had more intelligence and integrity than the other two combined.



I don't know Valsdad, I feel like I am usually in line with you, but
If no one had, we might have wound up with the presumptive republican candidate in '16 as opposed to the non-politician.

Who was the presumptive candidate again?


I don't think we can possibly know how the '92 election would have impacted 2016.


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We KNEW Clinton would be the start of a downward trend. Fact.

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Originally Posted by flintlocke
Nobody is cheering in timber producing states...we got f''''kt AGAIN. The entire chapter concerning Canadian softwood imports was adopted and incorporated into USMCA from NAFTA.
Basically, the Canadian government almost gives Crown timber to their industry to keep it alive. American producers have to pay full market value, about 5 times more. Nobody can compete with those numbers. The US timber industry was hurt with enviro regulations...but it was Slick Willy's NAFTA deal that was the death stab. He did a trade off with the Canadians, protected union auto jobs for the sellout of the timber jobs.



Golly, you noticed stuff like that too?

Everyone else thinks it was just an owl. Company I worked for over on the coast in the 90's had no problem dealing with the owl. Business rolled right along once they figured it out.. Competing with foreigners was a bit harder to deal with.........and still make a profit. Then again.............it was private timberlands.


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That’s all great and stuff, but we gotta tear dem White mains statues down

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