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Originally Posted by jdm953
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It is a felony to brandish firearms. They knew this, I am sure.


So howyasupposed to protect yer house from the mob if'n ya can't handle yer weapon??

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Not by running out onto the lawn/driveway with firearms in ready position while said mob passes by on the road. If they step onto your lawn, you can demand they leave. If you see violent intent, according to the laws of your state/city, you may be able to protect yourself with force. The law would see it that way, just as they are. The owners of said gated community would have the right to kick people off the road and out of the community.

Once they broke through the gate onto private property they became trespassers.

Funny how the DA gives no [bleep]....what they did is called brandishing. Look it up. It's a felony. Keep trying to convince yourselves, boys.


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I agree with Crow Hunter. BLM leaders also want to do away with the "nuclear family" and allow any type of sexuality. They want to do away with private property, and push hard for socialism. They want to do away with churches and Christianity (they say it is a "white supremacist" religion). Two of the leaders, one woman, and one man said that. The BLM movement was hijacked by the communist/socialist/antifa crowd. It should be classified as a terrorist organization because they said if white America didn't give them what they want, they would burn down America. Also, all money donated to BLM goes to the Democrat party, which makes them not a charitable organization. The blacks already had the NAACP, which was for peaceful protests and mostly just lobby congress for things peacefully. Some younger blacks said they weren't strong enough or weren't getting the job done, so BLM movement.

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"Brandishing a firearm in a "stand your ground" state allows you to carry a gun on your property openly. I don't know about Missouri law, but wouldn't the state law trump the city laws, constitutionally?

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I think what they were really lacking is practice and preparation. Exactly what they would do in that scenario. Not actually sweeping any of the vandals with the muzzle of a weapon would be a start, footwear would have been a plus also.

As it was, I believe that couple protected all the houses in that neighborhood, seeing that would make the vandals think twice.


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I think what they were really lacking is practice and preparation. Exactly what they would do in that scenario. Not actually sweeping any of the vandals with the muzzle of a weapon would be a start, footwear would have been a plus also.

As it was, I believe that couple protected all the houses in that neighborhood, seeing that would make the vandals think twice.

What you call "sweeping" is a felony. Stop pretending otherwise.

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"Brandishing a firearm in a "stand your ground" state allows you to carry a gun on your property openly. I don't know about Missouri law, but wouldn't the state law trump the city laws, constitutionally?

Pointing a firearm at people not attacking you is not covered in any "stand your ground" law.


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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Attorney's in St. Louis gated community are likely to have a major & expensive fight on their hands.

St. Louis Circuit Attorney wants to get to the bottom of why the couple felt the need to "defend" & protect their home from "peaceful" protesters who tore down the iron gates to the community.

You have no rights to protect yourself or your home anymore.........................

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Citizens Protecting Their Home to be Investigated


Couple BLM, ANTIFA,....signs on the front lawn would have been a lot cheaper.
Looking at where they live it's obvious they knew they could afford to do what they did.

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I guess they could have sat out in their front yard in a couple of lawn chairs with the AR propped up against him holding a beer and her with the gun on her lap.

Once a protestor felt compelled to throw a rock at them or step on their property, then the brandishing (and more) could have commenced.


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Private property.
They gained access by breaking down a barrier.
That should qualify as a threat.
Esp considering the violence that has been reported recently with such mobs.

A show of force, no shots fired.

Should bring no charges.

But my guess is the lawyers were democrats and arent helping the cause, so are going to be punished.

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Originally Posted by Slavek


Couple BLM, ANTIFA,....signs on the front lawn would have been a lot cheaper.




Do you really & truly believe that????????????

Please.................get a grip.

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Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
[Pointing a firearm at people not attacking you is not covered in any "stand your ground" law.


Wrong.

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They kept saying they felt threatened. They aren't going to deviate from that in their statements I bet. I would think that is their strongest move


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[bleep]'em. They've been riding the liberal gravy train for too long for me to give a [bleep] about them. I know, but wait till it comes to your neighborhood mantra, but I'm not Salmonella

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Originally Posted by cisco1

The McCloskeys are stupid. They could at least put on some shoes.

I am glad they did what the did,.......butI hate for them be portraying gun owners, in their stupid ,unprepared manner.

They committed assault by pointing their weapons at the mob.




Sorry. Don't agree with that assessment.


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Originally Posted by hookeye
Private property.
They gained access by breaking down a barrier.
That should qualify as a threat.
Esp considering the violence that has been reported recently with such mobs.

A show of force, no shots fired.

Should bring no charges.

But my guess is the lawyers were democrats and arent helping the cause, so are going to be punished.

That's what is so insidious about calling what these groups are doing "protests". And the prosecutor WILL call them 'protesters" during your trial. You will be painted as someone who assaulted protesters seeking redress for long-standing grievances, and in the process, showed yourself to be a felonious racist POS. Again, It doesn't matter what they do. It matters that they call themselves protesters, and the media and politicians agree.


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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by cisco1

The McCloskeys are stupid. They could at least put on some shoes.

I am glad they did what the did,.......butI hate for them be portraying gun owners, in their stupid ,unprepared manner.

They committed assault by pointing their weapons at the mob.




Sorry. Don't agree with that assessment.

Me either...


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Thankfully there is a lot of water around here. Everyone would be floating.

But I don't live in a liberal cesspool, making my money from liberal POS. Screw them

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Originally Posted by KFWA
They kept saying they felt threatened. They aren't going to deviate from that in their statements I bet. I would think that is their strongest move

If they aren't a faked psyop, I agree. If you look at how the story was rolled out, with endless pictures everywhere, and the way they were portrayed, it looks like a psyop. The goal is to present anyone confronting these "protesters" as unhinged and dangerous and likely committing a crime. And these aren't nobodies in their community. They are very connected. They have a law firm. They are a part of local High Society. Looks like a setup to me.


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Originally Posted by Raspy
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Originally Posted by cisco1

The McCloskeys are stupid. They could at least put on some shoes.

I am glad they did what the did,.......butI hate for them be portraying gun owners, in their stupid ,unprepared manner.

They committed assault by pointing their weapons at the mob.




Sorry. Don't agree with that assessment.

Me either...





Furthermore, I did not see them point a weapon at anyone.


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Originally Posted by Fubarski
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[Pointing a firearm at people not attacking you is not covered in any "stand your ground" law.


Wrong.

Put down the pipe, man. Meth is bad for you. You can't accost "protesters" with a firearm and be "standing your ground." I don't know how you could possibly see it otherwise, except for the meth you are obviously smoking.


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We kept looking the other way as they slowly chipped at our trunk and now the tree trembles . We were hiding behind the constitution because it guarantees our rights , when reality is , it was a guide for us to remain free men which required vigilant watch and action .
We got to comfy in our world and ignored the fact that the communists cared not what our constitution guaranteed .
So many have overlooked the fact that the constitution was written at a time when earning freedom was fresh in the minds of everyone who earned it and written by those who understood it was a doctrine that needed a vigilant watch and a vigilant action .
Freedom of speech I am sure was granted with thought in mind that we would have the common sense to recognize that freedom of all speech is not smart .
It is loud and clear now what a weapon unguarded speech has become .
When a person speaks of legislation or politics that threaten our freedoms, it should be a red flag and considered a serious threat . For to long we thought by voting the undesirables out would keep us safe when in reality they just sauntered off and came back from different angles till they eventually got elected or appointed into the system and slowly got people of their ilk in positions they wanted .
To long , known socialist and communist were allowed to live among us .
We failed to recognize the need to exile the enemy .
Think about it , why would anyone with a grain of brain allow an enemy of freedom to hold any office or reside here ?

Never made any sense to me .
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