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I specifically remember looking at FBI crime data several years ago and seeing that Blacks murder, rape and assault White people all out of proportion to their numbers. But now I'm looking at 2013 (the last year I can find that breaks it down by race) and the numbers don't add up the way I remember. Did the FBI change the numbers? It looks like they scrubbed all other racial data. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....itm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls
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I would not put any level of deception and subterfuge past the FBI.
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When did they scrub all the perp/victim race data?
Any links for reference? Google and DuckDuck searches don't turn up the information on that.
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I wouldn't believe anything the FBI publishes .
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You are awesome! Were you able to find similar assault & rape figures?
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Well, look at the Corona numbers.
Are they fake!
NO! They are real as rock.
But, listing a number which counts every confirmed case, daily is deceptive. We don't have 80 cases in my county. We HAVE had that many.
Adding cases to that list when the person hasn't lived here in months, but uses this address...
Testing blood donors, then adding that number,
Testing accident victims, and listing them as corona death
Testing a guy who is getting a hernia fixed, and listing his antibody test.
Notice some of these people weren't even sick, didn't even get the test voluntarily?
All this data could be very valuable, for good ends. But what we are seeing, is formatted to paint a deceptive picture.
The FBI doesn't have to lie at all. It's how the present the data. And I'm certain they do that.
Would they flat lie?
Well, the last 10 years answers that!
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The FBI ? The FBI that lied on FISA warrants ? The FBI that actively tried to fix the Presidential election ? That FBI ?
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The FBI has become more political than law enforcement in my opinion.
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I specifically remember looking at FBI crime data several years ago and seeing that Blacks murder, rape and assault White people all out of proportion to their numbers. But now I'm looking at 2013 (the last year I can find that breaks it down by race) and the numbers don't add up the way I remember. Did the FBI change the numbers? It looks like they scrubbed all other racial data. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....itm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xlsTyrone, To answer a portion of your question you didn't ask, yes, the FBI's been manipulating the data for year. Some time back the began classifying Hispanics as "white" in their crime data. Of course this greatly skews the numbers for "white" crime. A few years back I did an analysis where I broke out the likely Hispanic crime from the "white" crime figures. Final results indicated a per capita murder rate for hispanics 3x that of whites, and a black rate 10x that of whites. At the time the official FBI stat showed about a black murder rate only 3x to 5x of that of whites. Additionally, man liberal cities under report or do not include the proper identifying data with their crime statistics. So even though the FBI's numbers are technically "accurate", they are not "true". They are the victim of several layers of data abuse.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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I would not put any level of deception and subterfuge past the FBI. Keystone Cop Crime Syndicate is all they are anymore. Too bad.
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I remember years ago the news was that the DOJ was going to quit listing crimes according to the involved races of perps and victims.
I do remember about 15-20 years ago and before that info came out, there were statics showing blecks sexually assaulted a white (caucasian, Hispanic, or asian) woman on average over 1550 times per year. That boiled down to one sexual assault about every 33 min.
Also, illegal aliens supposedly killed by murder, and auto related deaths, and raped a US citizen on average approximately 10, 11 and 12 times per day. I cant remember which crimes lined up with which number, however.
I dont think we have access to those statistics today.
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I would not put any level of deception and subterfuge past the FBI. Took the words out of my mouth.
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"Figures don't lie, but liars do figure!" Trusting in anything any government agency says is a fool's errand- - - - -including the VA, the IRS, the BATFEIEIO, the INS, or any of the other alphabet soup agencies our tax dollars support.
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I would not put any level of deception and subterfuge past the FBI. Especially at doctoring their own crimes.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
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All major police agencies manipulate their UCR reporting classifications to project the desired portrait of their operating efficiency and to maintain and expand budget limits.
One of the bigger footballs kicked around this way are drug crimes. Some years they are classified as "Crimes Against Property". Other years they are classified as "Crimes Against Persons".
If they want to showcase their efficiency they classify drug offenses as Crimes Against Property, which are seen as less of a threat. If they want to expand the budget, and put more officers on the street they classify drug offenses as Crimes Against Persons.
And this is not a new thing in any sense. I saw it first hand in the early 1980s, and it was considered to be a traditional thing at the time.
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