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Nothin wrong with gettin a search warrant before charges are filed.
Happens all the time.
And they could only take the firearms which might have been used in what liberals think is a crime.
They could go buy a whole arsenal right now, if they don't already have one.
Bullshit thing to have done, in any event, but it ain't on the cops, except for the one that applied for the warrant. So someone can be deprived of their rights to private property and to keep and bear arms without being charged with a crime, and you claim that there is "nothin wrong" with it because it "happens all the time". No wonder we are where we are as a nation. The usual stupidity from kuhuntnshoot. The 4th Amendment allows for search warrants to issue upon affidavit evidencing probable cause. The investigation is probably for assault or a weapons charge. If the weapon in the video is airsoft, it may still be assault, but much harder to get to a weapons charge. The dumbshit should go ta jail for still havin it around, and the broad for givin it to an attorney. If you gotta call me a name first, you have no argument, and we both now know it. Thanks for clarifying. I know what the laws are. I also know what principles, morals, values, standards, and ethics are. I will be happy to teach you. In the mean time, feel free to keep rationalizing. And then come over here and call me names to my face. I'll happily give you my address.
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Nothin wrong with gettin a search warrant before charges are filed.
Happens all the time.
And they could only take the firearms which might have been used in what liberals think is a crime.
They could go buy a whole arsenal right now, if they don't already have one.
Bullshit thing to have done, in any event, but it ain't on the cops, except for the one that applied for the warrant. So someone can be deprived of their rights to private property and to keep and bear arms without being charged with a crime, and you claim that there is "nothin wrong" with it because it "happens all the time". No wonder we are where we are as a nation. The usual stupidity from kuhuntnshoot. The 4th Amendment allows for search warrants to issue upon affidavit evidencing probable cause. The investigation is probably for assault or a weapons charge. If the weapon in the video is airsoft, it may still be assault, but much harder to get to a weapons charge. The dumbshit should go ta jail for still havin it around, and the broad for givin it to an attorney. If you gotta call me a name first, you have no argument, and we both now know it. Thanks for clarifying. I know what the laws are. I also know what principles, morals, values, standards, and ethics are. I will be happy to teach you. In the mean time, feel free to keep rationalizing. And then come over here and call me names to my face. I'll happily give you my address. Idiots always claim name-callin, when it's simply a description of your deficiencies. Somebody's got red hair, ya call em a redhead. So happily post your address, moron.
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Nothin wrong with gettin a search warrant before charges are filed.
Happens all the time.
And they could only take the firearms which might have been used in what liberals think is a crime.
They could go buy a whole arsenal right now, if they don't already have one.
Bullshit thing to have done, in any event, but it ain't on the cops, except for the one that applied for the warrant. So someone can be deprived of their rights to private property and to keep and bear arms without being charged with a crime, and you claim that there is "nothin wrong" with it because it "happens all the time". No wonder we are where we are as a nation. The usual stupidity from kuhuntnshoot. The 4th Amendment allows for search warrants to issue upon affidavit evidencing probable cause. The investigation is probably for assault or a weapons charge. If the weapon in the video is airsoft, it may still be assault, but much harder to get to a weapons charge. The dumbshit should go ta jail for still havin it around, and the broad for givin it to an attorney. If you gotta call me a name first, you have no argument, and we both now know it. Thanks for clarifying. I know what the laws are. I also know what principles, morals, values, standards, and ethics are. I will be happy to teach you. In the mean time, feel free to keep rationalizing. And then come over here and call me names to my face. I'll happily give you my address. Idiots always claim name-callin, when it's simply a description of your deficiencies. Somebody's got red hair, ya call em a redhead. So happily post your address, moron. Again, not a point. Come over here tough guy. I'll beat your ass, then I'll explain why government cannot be the victim of a crime under common law, and how the government's inversion of this standard has caused nearly every single Constitutional infringement since. The law requires a victim, and a sworn affidavit from that victim in front of a duly elected official. But that doesn't matter, because what you are advocating is the destruction of the rule of law, just as has been demonstrated repeatedly on this forum. But keep on advocating for the destruction of the society. Let me know when you are in Helena, Montana. I'll PM my addy.
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You can beat my ass right now, moron, without movin your fat ass from outta the front of your crumb covered keyboard.
Just point out where the 4th Amendment *doesn't* allow search warrants to issue.
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Someone mentioned on another thread they feel this whole event was staged, and it wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
Now with this outrageously unconstitutional act of illegally removing his arms and stripping him of his God given inalienable right to “bear arms”, being the search warrant has zero legal standing since there were no shots fired, and he never pointed his gun at anyone, this proves to me it is a staged event.
This latest action they just took is the communists continuing their efforts to brainwash the public that black guns are [not to be owned by the WHITE public / fill in the blank] to support their legislation they’ll attempt to pass in the near future as they chip away at the 2A.
There, I fixed it for you.
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You can beat my ass right now, moron, without movin your fat ass from outta the front of your crumb covered keyboard.
Just point out where the 4th Amendment *doesn't* allow search warrants to issue.
LOL Again, just so we get this straight, you are advocating that the police SHOULD have the power to come into his home and take this man's gun, though there are no charges pending, and there are no victims of any crime nor any damaged party who has signed any affidavit laying out those damages, solely because of a warrant. Yes, I know that standards the 4th Amendment is worded to require. And I know that in the past, those requirements required a damaged party stating in sworn statement the nature and extent of those damages. Now, whatever government body who wrote whatever statute that infringes on several intrinsic and Constitutional rights can just submit some paperwork to a judge and then go infringe on those rights with impunity. And you support this.
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They can take the man's gun, with probable cause a crime has been committed, just like they can seize drugs from a drug dealer.
The fact that the item to be seized is a firearm has no impact on the 4th Amendment's requirements nor operation.
And I support the Constitution.
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Looks like they should have stayed indoors and just started shooting as the dimocraps started coming through their doors.
What do you all think? That's the way that I would've handled it. It appeared that the protestors were walking by the house, not towards it. It also seems that they enjoyed suing their neighbors, the HOA and everyone else. I doubt if there's much sympathy from their neighbors.
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So basically for all their bitching about Marxist DAs and BLM, the police have no problem being the enforcement arm of said Marxist DAs and disarming a guy who did nothing wrong. Yep, pretty much as expected. Soros has funded elected "LEFTIST" district attorneys all over the country in sizable urban cities and no one really knew what he was up to. Now we are subject to being almost defenseless to the new mob. Local tyrants are easy to find. Know who and where the enemy is in your backyard. Not offended at all
Folks want to live in a liberal driven hellhole and, frankly, are part of the system that created that environment.............then wonder why liberal schit happens?
They elect far left politicians who are going to hire Department heads that mirror their beliefs. What kind of cops, as a rule, do you think those bosses are going to hire? Why is anyone surprised by the outcome?
I’ve been employed by the same Town for the duration of my career. I started, and stayed, because the community essentially mirrors my beliefs. That is starting to change as the MA demographic is now reaching us in larger numbers. Fortunately, I don’t have to compromise my standard of policing. I have my time, and can walk and wait for my age if necessary.
Folks get the police they allow.
That will be an unpopular statement
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What crime was committed? I saw a woman and a man defending their property in a private area that was broken into by lawbreakers. What did you see Furbarskl? Edk
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What crime was committed? I saw a woman and a man defending their property in a private area that was broken into by lawbreakers. What did you see Furbarskl? Edk I agree that the H&W were completely within their rights to take whatever action they thought necessary to defend themselves against terrorists. If' they shot those terrorists, under the circumstances we know and I was on the jury, I'd walk em. But there's a process to play out. One or more of the terrorists has filed a complaint. The socialist prosecutor is aiding terrorism by starting an investigation, insteada tellin the terrorists not to fck with people on their own property. Cops got a warrant to seize the instrumentality of a possible crime. That's what cops do. The fact that the H&W have a good defense to possible charges, don't nullify a search warrant.
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So basically for all their bitching about Marxist DAs and BLM, the police have no problem being the enforcement arm of said Marxist DAs and disarming a guy who did nothing wrong. Yep, pretty much as expected. Exactly. Police are not our friends. They are not on the side of liberty. They enforce every Draconian law that comes along and one day they will walk out our front door with our guns.
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Odd that they can say on the tv and radio that the couple broke no laws, but their guns were still confiscated. How and why did the police get a warrant against a couple who broke no laws. Even more disturbing, how can they disarm the family when they have broken no laws.
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Nothin wrong with gettin a search warrant before charges are filed.
Happens all the time.
And they could only take the firearms which might have been used in what liberals think is a crime.
They could go buy a whole arsenal right now, if they don't already have one.
Bullshit thing to have done, in any event, but it ain't on the cops, except for the one that applied for the warrant. You sound like a friend of the Police but an enemy of liberty
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Most cops are lemmings that will do exactly what they are told and do it gleefully. A vast majority of them became cops for the power trip. book it. Spot freaking on!
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Looks like they should have stayed indoors and just started shooting as the dimocraps started coming through their doors.
What do you all think? Yup
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The guy's a lawyer, right ? He ought to sue the s hit out of ALL those responsible.
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Nothin wrong with gettin a search warrant before charges are filed.
Happens all the time.
And they could only take the firearms which might have been used in what liberals think is a crime.
They could go buy a whole arsenal right now, if they don't already have one.
Bullshit thing to have done, in any event, but it ain't on the cops, except for the one that applied for the warrant. You sound like a friend of the Police but an enemy of liberty Everyone's granted the protections of the Constitution. But everyone's also subject to the Constitution. Search warrants are employed against drug dealers and bank robbers everyday. And their guns and drugs get seized. You want to change the Constitution when there's an outcome you don't like, like any liberal.
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