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Originally Posted by Calvin
Seems like a good opportunity to make some big changes to the education system.
One of the most wasteful, inefficient, and extortionist industries that the taxpayers have to foot the bill for in our entire country.


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there'd be a different tune sung if staying home without pay were the only option.



Bingo!


Most teachers I know would gladly go without pay to keep children safe.

Are they sending their paychecks back?

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https://justthenews.com/politics-po...s-cant-reopen-unless-charter-schools-get


In short, the teachers union says it will not open unless police are defunded and Charter Schools closed.

On the plus side, I've been told that most teachers would work for free.




"A major teachers union is claiming that the re-opening of schools in its district cannot occur without several substantial policy provisions in place, including a "moratorium" on charter schools and the defunding of local police.

United Teachers Los Angeles, a 35,000-strong union in the Los Angeles Unified School District, made those demands in a policy paper it released this week. The organization called on local authorities to "keep school campuses closed when the semester begins on Aug. 18."

The union outlined numerous major provisions it says will be necessary to reopen schools again, including sequestering students in small groups throughout the school day, providing students with masks and other forms of protective equipment, and re-designing school layouts in order to facilitate "social distancing."

Yet the union goes even farther than those requests, calling for "local support" in the form of defunded police departments and the shuttering of charter schools.

Police violence "is a leading cause of death and trauma for Black people, and is a serious public health and moral issue," the union writes. The document calls on authorities to "shift the astronomical amount of money devoted to policing, to education and other essential needs such as housing and public health."

"Privately operated, publicly funded charter schools," meanwhile, "drain resources from district schools," the union states. The practice of "colocating" charter schools in existing structures, it continues, "adds students to campuses when we need to reduce the number of students to allow for physical distancing."

The union also demands the implementation of a federal Medicare-for-All program, several new state-level taxes on wealthy people, and a "federal bailout" of the school district.

"The benefits to restarting physical schools must outweigh the risks, especially for our most vulnerable students and school communities," the document continues.

"As it stands, the only people guaranteed to benefit from the premature physical reopening of schools amidst a rapidly accelerating pandemic are billionaires and the politicians they’ve purchased," it adds."

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Originally Posted by Calvin
Seems like a good opportunity to make some big changes to the education system.



Agreed. It's time to strike.

Public schools need to go the way of the Dodo bird.

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When I was in kindergarten I remember thinking of just how fugking stupid teachers were.

Now I'm in my 40's and every time I interact with them, I'm reminded of just how fugking stupid they all are.


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When I was in kindergarten I remember thinking of just how fugking stupid teachers were.

Now I'm in my 40's and every time I interact with them, I'm reminded of just how fugking stupid they all are.



Have you ever dated a teacher? Holy warped head.

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Originally Posted by RemModel8
Originally Posted by Calvin
Seems like a good opportunity to make some big changes to the education system.



Agreed. It's time to strike.

Public schools need to go the way of the Dodo bird.


I've often wondered how somebody that is married with children gets to pay LESS taxes.


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When I was in kindergarten I remember thinking of just how fugking stupid teachers were.

Now I'm in my 40's and every time I interact with them, I'm reminded of just how fugking stupid they all are.



Have you ever dated a teacher? Holy warped head.



I tend to wear my opinions on my sleeve.

So, no.

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Who would guess the Nationalist Socialist Education Workers Party would be against it?

""As it stands, the only people guaranteed to benefit from the premature physical reopening of schools amidst a rapidly accelerating pandemic are billionaires and the politicians they’ve purchased," it adds."

As opposed to the real heartfelt and charming people who want to not work and still get paid (stiff the taxpayer yet again).

Not in any sector does the worker bees say "I won't" so many times and still keep a gig.

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Originally Posted by deflave
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Seems like a good opportunity to make some big changes to the education system.



Agreed. It's time to strike.

Public schools need to go the way of the Dodo bird.


I've often wondered how somebody that is married with children gets to pay LESS taxes.



It makes zero sense to me too. The more drain on services one is, the less the pay.

EIC, goes to educate YOUR child. SNAP/WELFARE gets the 'free breakfast/lunch' taken from it. Etc etc etc

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Hell, there shouldn't even be EIC.

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Who would guess the Nationalist Socialist Education Workers Party would be against it?

""As it stands, the only people guaranteed to benefit from the premature physical reopening of schools amidst a rapidly accelerating pandemic are billionaires and the politicians they’ve purchased," it adds."

As opposed to the real heartfelt and charming people who want to not work and still get paid (stiff the taxpayer yet again).

Not in any sector does the worker bees say "I won't" so many times and still keep a gig.



The OP's link takes you to a page titled:

A Teacher's Life. A Teacher Knows Best

Talk about a belly laugh.


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In short, the teachers union says it will not open unless police are defunded and Charter Schools closed.

these fanatics are disgusting


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Originally Posted by deflave
When I was in kindergarten I remember thinking of just how fugking stupid teachers were.

Now I'm in my 40's and every time I interact with them, I'm reminded of just how fugking stupid they all are.



I have never figured out how someone can go through the moron factory that is the American public education system, come out the other side, and think "THAT'S where I want to spend a career!"

Same way with high school sports coaches. It takes a peculiar person to want to spend their adult life in a fuggin high school locker room.

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Originally Posted by deflave
When I was in kindergarten I remember thinking of just how fugking stupid teachers were.

Now I'm in my 40's and every time I interact with them, I'm reminded of just how fugking stupid they all are.



I have never figured out how someone can go through the moron factory that is the American public education system, come out the other side, and think "THAT'S where I want to spend a career!"

Same way with high school sports coaches. It takes a peculiar person to want to spend their adult life in a fuggin high school locker room.



What is even more impressive, is the number of people that will happily vote to give more money to teachers/schools etc. Those idiots occupy both sides of the political isle.

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Originally Posted by auk1124



I have never figured out how someone can go through the moron factory that is the American public education system, come out the other side, and think "THAT'S where I want to spend a career!"

Same way with high school sports coaches. It takes a peculiar person to want to spend their adult life in a fuggin high school locker room.


There is an easy explanation to this. People drwn to education tend to first of all be comfortable in that structured environment. Next, most of them enjoyed some degree of personal success in the class roman are not risk takers.

Next you get the group that egotistically enjoys spending their time with their intellectual inferiors and the power mad that enjoy the authority they have over students. I this really starts to show at universities with tenured professors. Throw into that mixed the Asperger's and Autist spectrum professors that might be accomplished in math or physics or ancient Tabouleh literature, but can't function in a normal social setting.

Next is the classic for women in education - it's a safe, guaranteed job. They bit h about the low pay, the lack of support from the administration, long nights grading papers (please! ) too many meeting, not enough latitude in how they can teach or what they teach (blame the government -No Child Left Behind anyone??)Yet they only work 8 + months, they 10 weeks off in the summer, a week in September, a week in November, two weeks in December/January, a week in February and a week off in April.

They retire after 30-35 years with substantial pay and great benefits. They can work another ten years either part time teaching or in a second career and bank the money if they choose. I have a number of friends doing just that. "Retired" from full time, collecting pension and benefits, working and coaching part time. "Double dipping"


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The single most common complaint I've heard from teachers around here is so far they can't get any straight specific answers from local school boards as to what the rules will be and what's expected of them when schools do reopen.





That’s because it’s not up to the school board to draft the plan. Superintendent makes the call and the boards say yes or no.


Not true in Montana anyway, it's the health dept making the rules.
Just like when they said earlier they could open the schools but you had to do X, Y and Z virtually made it impossible.

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Originally Posted by RemModel8
What is even more impressive, is the number of people that will happily vote to give more money to teachers/schools etc. Those idiots occupy both sides of the political isle.
And the answer to every single problem is to throw even more taxpayers money at it.


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teachers unions better be careful what they ask for. a properly run charter school would kick the absolute ass of most public school systems at a fraction of the cost and much more efficiently. and with a hell of a lot of companies are getting rid of hard office space, mine included, it opens up a whole new way of working and educating. someday the public school system will be where only problem kids with schitty families end up.


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It’s time for everyone to take a deep breath and think. Set emotion aside and look at the facts. The scamdemic is the democrat plan to separate the Trump voter from Trump. There is no science behind the overreaction to the virus. If finding/developing a vaccine for a virus is so easy, why don’t we have one for the common cold? AIDS?

As it has been said— get back to your lives. Go to work, send your kids to school or home school, go to the park, go fishing, go hunting, whatever it is you like to do. Quit living in fear propagated by the liberal media and governmental bureaucrats.

Falsi and company haven’t been right for 40 years. Why are they right now?

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