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Originally Posted by RockyRaab
It would also be impossible to deny. A "God's Rods" attack could instantly be traced back to a single orbiting source, and the national ownership of that craft known. They do track everything down to baseball size that's in orbit, you know, along with what it is and who put it there.

All you fantasy thinkers are so wrong. The X-37 is a research craft, and nothing else. It tests new technology like lubricants and sensors in long-term space exposure, with the most critical aspect being the ability to examine the test objects after safely landing. It would be useless as any kind of space weapon, precisely because its orbit is so well known and tracked. As I've said before, anyone who thinks otherwise knows absolutely nothing about orbital mechanics.


Rocky thanks for the insight. Yes one of those attacks if such a vehicle even existed would be tracked.

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Rocky, any explanation of all the Top Secret missions of the space shuttles back in the day?


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Kinetics is a big deal.
A chunk of tungsten would be nearly impossible to lift unnoticed, every ounce matters.

However, it wouldn't have to be real big. At 17000 miles per hour, that's around 25,000 feet per second. That's at least six or seven times our fastest rifle bullet.

But do we have such? Medoubts. So, there's got to be something else that came out of somebody's skunk works.


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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter


The "rods from god" idea was a bundle of telephone-pole-size (20 feet long, 1 foot in diameter) tungsten rods, dropped from orbit, reaching a speed of up to 10 times the speed of sound. The rod itself would penetrate hundreds of feet into the Earth, destroying any potential hardened bunkers or secret underground sites.


I think they were calling it a 304.8 Creedmore

(304.8 millimeters in a foot)


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Originally Posted by RockyRaab
It would also be impossible to deny. A "God's Rods" attack could instantly be traced back to a single orbiting source, and the national ownership of that craft known. They do track everything down to baseball size that's in orbit, you know, along with what it is and who put it there.

All you fantasy thinkers are so wrong. The X-37 is a research craft, and nothing else. It tests new technology like lubricants and sensors in long-term space exposure, with the most critical aspect being the ability to examine the test objects after safely landing. It would be useless as any kind of space weapon, precisely because its orbit is so well known and tracked. As I've said before, anyone who thinks otherwise knows absolutely nothing about orbital mechanics.

Not to mention that pesky " non militarization of space " treaty. It might be a bit embarrassing to be caught breaking a treaty we fought so hard to implement.

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GeoW, for a time, the Space Shuttle was used instead of expendable rockets to launch satellites. Many of the early missions did so. I can only surmise (meaning guess) that that's what some or all of the classified Shuttle launches did: deploy spysats. I have spoken on several occasions with Bob Crippen who commanded one of those classified flights, and wish I could say he let me in on the secret. But as honorable Air Force and Navy officers, neither of us broached the subject.

It was soon realized that it cost five to ten times as much to deploy satellites with the Shuttle instead of vehicles like Atlas, Delta, or even the mighty Titan. So except for satellites like the Hubble telescope, they returned to using rockets for satellites. The Shuttle then became a delivery truck for the Space Station until that was completed - and so they retired the Shuttle.

And then SpaceX came along...

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Thanks Rocky!


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter

Not to mention that pesky " non militarization of space " treaty. It might be a bit embarrassing to be caught breaking a treaty we fought so hard to implement.

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Militarization of Space?
Naw, just list some trash out of the back of our vehicle.😁


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
It would also be impossible to deny. A "God's Rods" attack could instantly be traced back to a single orbiting source, and the national ownership of that craft known. They do track everything down to baseball size that's in orbit, you know, along with what it is and who put it there.

All you fantasy thinkers are so wrong. The X-37 is a research craft, and nothing else. It tests new technology like lubricants and sensors in long-term space exposure, with the most critical aspect being the ability to examine the test objects after safely landing. It would be useless as any kind of space weapon, precisely because its orbit is so well known and tracked. As I've said before, anyone who thinks otherwise knows absolutely nothing about orbital mechanics.

Not to mention that pesky " non militarization of space " treaty. It might be a bit embarrassing to be caught breaking a treaty we fought so hard to implement.

Star Wars, the best and most successful psy,op in history. Brought USSR to her knees. Hell many Americans believe it still today. God Bless Ronald Reagan.


There is no nonmilitarization of space treaty. There is a treaty that prohibits nuclear and chemical weapons on space based platforms. Kinetic weapons do not come under that.

Look it up if you don’t believe me.

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Originally Posted by JoeBob


Not necessarily. The concept works all the way down to rods small enough to take out enemy tanks. A tungsten rod a foot long dropped from space will ruin someone’s day. In the 80s they theorized using a he concept against Russian tank divisions going through the Fulda Gap. A few hundred small rods dropped from a single satellite would decimate a Soviet tank division.


How would something "dropped from space" would reach a terminal velocity tens of times faster than something just dropped from an aircraft at altitude? Unless propelled, how would the speed differ?

Bad-azz concept though!


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No atmosphere when things get started

Gravitational pull rakes it in

Look at the speed of orbiting vehicles. 22000 mph or something. Take a turn down and see how limited the atmosphere is in slowing it down


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Think meteorites.


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Bet they're hoping Biden gets in so he can send they a few more cargo planes full of cash.

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Originally Posted by GeoW
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Amen, but updated to be more sophisticated.


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Originally Posted by Burleyboy
Bet they're hoping Biden gets in so he can send they a few more cargo planes full of cash.

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Originally Posted by hatari
No atmosphere when things get started

Gravitational pull rakes it in

Look at the speed of orbiting vehicles. 22000 mph or something. Take a turn down and see how limited the atmosphere is in slowing it down


I get that, but that is the *lateral* (orbiting) speed of said vehicle. These these are (presumably) low orbiting vehicles simply "dropping" a payload (again, presumably).

Not a meteorite entering the atmosphere already traveling at 150,000 MPH.

Anyhow, just curious. I am sure a tungsten telephone pole even at terminal velocity would ruin someone's day.

So curious how the speed accumulates. Most space junk burns up on re-entry...


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Originally Posted by GeoW
Starwars.. Thanks President Reagan!


Amen, but updated to be more sophisticated.


Funny, I wore my '84 Reagan/Bush campaign t-shirt to the optometrist today. It was quite the conversation maker, LOL.


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