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Then again, some rifles are made possible, or practical, by cartridge design, so sometimes we end up right back where we started.🤔


That's pretty much the 7x57 vs 7-08. But in 'Stick's defense, in my extremely limited experience I find it takes a little longer to find consistent MOA loads in the 7x57, especially in one rifle and across a diversity of bullet weights. I don't know why that's the case (throat variations?) but it seems to be. But the 7x57 wasn't developed as, nor is generally used as, a target rifle either, so I'm not sure it makes a whole lot of difference in the field...although sometimes after a frustrating day on the range I'm tempted to pick up a 7-08 Tikka and call it good. whistle

Just my $.02

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I file that quest, and it's more radical children, half-MOA and the others, under "shoot for fun". It has almost no practical application for me, except for the odd poke I take at a woodchuck. When a deer pops out of the bushes at 20 or 30 yards, it ain't even a consideration. Since I picked up the crossbow a couple years ago, I'm taking the same shots I take with my rifles, with the same results, minus the bloodshot meat, and cold toes.

I still get giddy over the little clusters, but don't sweat that stuff when it comes to hunting loads, or what I practice with. I want hits with good bullets.


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Yep. I"m trying to get one of my 7x57s to shoot anything other than 175-grain bullets into less than 1.5 MOA, but you're right: inside of 100 yards who cares. BTW, I don't think JOC ever mentioned how his 7x57s shot; just how effective they were on game.


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I own a 7x57 and it is a sweet shooting SOB


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I don't get too worked up on group size in my hunting rifles as long as a rifle can put 3 shots into 1.5", but then again I don't take shots at game over about 400 yards. I haven't even shot it yet but with my 7x57 I would think it's probably less than that. It's not a long range hunter. But out to 350-400 yards I would think it will be pretty lethal on game with a 140 grain bullet.


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I have had very good luck with my “little 7”. It’s a Ruger #1 that I purchased in the late 70’s. It is short, reasonably light, and more then accurate for the job.
My longest shoot, 330 paces on a pronghorn. It shoots 140 and 150 gr Nosler BT’s into about an inch. IMR 4350 used to be my powder of choice, lately trying Ramshot Hunter and I think I like it better.
It could be my only hunting rifle and that would be fine. Of course I do have a few more... grin

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People make a big deal about bullet selection. Most of my rifles are dedicated hunting rifles and in my case they are pretty specialized. All of them are called upon for deer hunting but some I have for larger game. I've had my .270 for 54 years and I've only shot a few different bullet weights in it. Of these most are Spitzer Boat Tails. I can say with my .270 I've only ever needed a couple different weights. The 130 and 150 are about all I'll ever need. Of those, only about three different brands. For deer and hogs it's usually either a 130 grain SGK or Nosler or Combined Technologies Ballistic Tip. With this 7x57 I visuallize about the same. If I should get the opportunity to go for elk or maybe another Nilgai hunt I would probably load me up some 150 grain Partitions. For some people that's a pretty limited bullet selection, but for me it meets all the needs of that rifle. I may yet play around with some other bullets but for now those listed are what you'll find me hunting with.


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Originally Posted by RevMike
Yep. I"m trying to get one of my 7x57s to shoot anything other than 175-grain bullets into less than 1.5 MOA, but you're right: inside of 100 yards who cares. BTW, I don't think JOC ever mentioned how his 7x57s shot; just how effective they were on game.


Have you tried Seafire's load of 40 grains IMR 3031? It has been shown to turn lousy shooters into accurate ones. PM him and get the scoop. Don't believe Cactus Jack would have kept a 7x57 around if it was not accurate. Surely, Eleanor would not have put up with a lousy shooter that killed the amount of game she did.


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NOTHING is fhuqking funnier than a Texan trying to "talk" rifles...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

I rather enjoy your Dumbfhuqk Chronicles,as you "think" it is a requisite to perpetually denote that besides being a CLUELESS Fhuqk,that you are also an AMAZINGLY sllloooowwwwwww "learner". Read that again. Now one more time. Hint.

Simply put,boolits matter more than everything else and a Clueless Fhuqk who "does" as "much" as you,will never begin to have even a First Fhuqking Clue in regards to what do what. Hint.

Bless your heart for trying though.

Hint.

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Originally Posted by ingwe
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although sometimes after a frustrating day on the range I'm tempted to pick up a 7-08 Tikka and call it good. whistle

Just my $.02

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Originally Posted by RevMike
Yep. I"m trying to get one of my 7x57s to shoot anything other than 175-grain bullets into less than 1.5 MOA, but you're right: inside of 100 yards who cares. BTW, I don't think JOC ever mentioned how his 7x57s shot; just how effective they were on game.


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I'm looking forward to shooting and hunting with my (new to me) 7x57. I think of it as a .270 lite.


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Originally Posted by roundoak
Have you tried Seafire's load of 40 grains IMR 3031? It has been shown to turn lousy shooters into accurate ones. PM him and get the scoop. Don't believe Cactus Jack would have kept a 7x57 around if it was not accurate. Surely, Eleanor would not have put up with a lousy shooter that killed the amount of game she did.


I haven't tried it but I'm going to when I can get my hands on a pound of it. Right now I have some 160-gr Match Kings loaded up in front of IMR4350 just to see how they do. The rifle in question is a M70 Featherweight - not the Ingwe Special - that shoots 175s into less than an inch, but that's not the bullet I want to use in this particular rifle (I have others for those). I'd rather use a lighter bullet in this rifle, but it scatters 140 and 150 grain Partitions, as well as 154-grain InterLocks. But if it'll shoot the 160s I'll be fine with that since I have a bunch of 160-gr Partitions, Hot-Cors, and Grand Slams.


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Originally Posted by WAM
Some of the velocities quoted are not what you see today.



True. I remember chronographing a 140 grain load out of my 22 inch barrel Model 70, and it came up 200 fps short from what was claimed. By the way, it was a over max load of IMR4350 that Jim Carmichael had given.

But, it sill killed the snot of a deer.

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Originally Posted by RevMike
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Have you tried Seafire's load of 40 grains IMR 3031? It has been shown to turn lousy shooters into accurate ones. PM him and get the scoop. Don't believe Cactus Jack would have kept a 7x57 around if it was not accurate. Surely, Eleanor would not have put up with a lousy shooter that killed the amount of game she did.


I haven't tried it but I'm going to when I can get my hands on a pound of it. Right now I have some 160-gr Match Kings loaded up in front of IMR4350 just to see how they do. The rifle in question is a M70 Featherweight - not the Ingwe Special - that shoots 175s into less than an inch, but that's not the bullet I want to use in this particular rifle (I have others for those). I'd rather use a lighter bullet in this rifle, but it scatters 140 and 150 grain Partitions, as well as 154-grain InterLocks. But if it'll shoot the 160s I'll be fine with that since I have a bunch of 160-gr Partitions, Hot-Cors, and Grand Slams.

I have a Featherweight 7x57 like yours and I used the 160 grain Sierra BT/Nosler Partition and the 140 grain Trophy Bonded Tipped in it with good results. Didn't seem all that hard to find an accurate load in it.

Thinking of trying IMR 4451 with the 160 grain Sierra for a deer/rabbit/antelope load.


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Originally Posted by Filaman
I'm looking forward to shooting and hunting with my (new to me) 7x57. I think of it as a .270 lite.


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Originally Posted by Filaman
I'm looking forward to shooting and hunting with my (new to me) 7x57. I think of it as a .270 lite.



Think of it as a .270 Straight...


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Wouldn't that be the .270 Ingwe?


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Wouldn't that be the .270 Ingwe?


No.

Theres .270 Win ( aka .270 Gay)

Theres the .270 Ingwe-a preposterous wildcat cartridge that violates all things holy about the 7x57

Then theres the 7x57...the Ultimate, Consummate cartridge...


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by Filaman
I'm looking forward to shooting and hunting with my (new to me) 7x57. I think of it as a .270 lite.



Think of it as a .270 Straight...

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