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Thanks Mac, but I try to take the back of the house these days. I always tell 'em they can have me investigating...or part of the investigation.
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Damn Isaac...I know you didn't know what I was typing.
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Yeah Casey, the SC in Frazier v. Cupp, 394 U.S. 731, 1969 were classicly neo-conic in obtaining that confession in a gruesome murder case. I just can't believe the cops told the co-defendant that his co-conspirator POS buddy already confessed to obtain his own confession. That really gnaws at my whole being. My personal American values were all shot to hell after that trickery. Those classic neo-con pricks are at it again keeping those murderers off the streets.
Send in a bunch of e-mails to your Senators on that one to ensure more Justices like that don't get on the SCOTUS!!
Despicable!!! Feel better?..... Don't forget to salute the Republican flag when you hit "submit"........... And that ruling has been interpreted and reinterpreted and dumbed down to rationalize a lot more "crimes"--give the big governemtn neo-cons an inch, and they'll take a mile--just like the big government socialists..... Casey
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Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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Isaac, I think you just got officially "called out".
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You guys have given me a little bit of insight as to why a good cop may be lying to people when I may not have thought it was justified. Thanks for that.
And I'm going to completely forget that left-out factoid I mentioned earlier...there, I feel better.
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I saw a movie where only the military and the police had guns. It was called Schindler's List.
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remrug77; If it's any consolation, you were lied to; but the guy was probably just practicing for the real thing. 
I saw a movie where only the military and the police had guns. It was called Schindler's List.
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Thanks BB, now I'll concede that he probably just ran into a bored pryck.
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Stirring a bit... Cop could have done that in my earlier case. IE running 3 over but "clocked" way over that, and being passed at the same time and in the wrong lane.
Wanted to ID me and then get on with it. But what about the point its a trooper I know and see on a day to day basis with my job and one of his patrol partners has shot a LOT of competition with me?
I'm certainly not under investigation...
Just admit it was a mistake and don't lie about it... or don't get mad if I decide to lie then?
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And that ruling has been interpreted and reinterpreted and dumbed down
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You shouldn't have spent so much time on the dumbed-down version!
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You know what's wrong with that? I've seen it done too many times just as you describe it, on television. If some dumb sob was guilty of something and you said that to him, it seems he would know you were not telling the truth, because they show just exactly that on tv all the time.
I've often thought that tv cop shows educate badguys to the methods of cops. But not being a badguy, I don't know... One of the few cop shows that ever got cops NEAR right was "Homicide" 'Life on the Street'. In one episode they did a "documentary" type, and Andre Brauer (sp?) had this line something like: "the sign in the lobby says Homicide Division, why in the hell people will come in here and confess their souls is beyond me, but they do, every day...what do they think we do here?" I swear, on the street, consent and confession (obtained more by by old school cops that knew the gift of gab) is/was so much more common than people think! People will let you search their cars KNOWING full well what's in there will ruin their lives...and I can't explain it either, but it takes little more than asking in the right way in most cases. Confessions are much the same.
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And that ruling has been interpreted and reinterpreted and dumbed down
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You shouldn't have spent so much time on the dumbed-down version! It's the dumbed down versions that concern me........ Casey
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Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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280; Stockholm Syndrome? Or knowing you could search their car anyway if you lie and get a warrant... 
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"I have found that "idle hands are the devil's workshop" when it comes to law enforcement. While there are literally hundreds of thousands of big city cops, state troopers and small town cops are much more likely to be "bad"."
Couldn't agree more. The concept of Staties being a cut above went out with preference points for being a different ethnicity and sex.
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280; Stockholm Syndrome? Or knowing you could search their car anyway if you lie and get a warrant... Lying to get a warrant: Illegal Lying to get consent: Legal Big difference.
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OK..I'll play along for a short bit. Give me one dumbed down version your concerned with. Don't wait 10 minutes so you can quickly Google search something. Give me one appellate dumbed- down version of a criminal case that causes you concern.
The injustices of family law court don't count!! This is not a good time for you to complain about your unconstitutional 150 dollar support payment!
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That's why the grin.
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Actually, they think if they say yes, you'll just say "oh never mind.".
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People will let you search their cars KNOWING full well what's in there will ruin their lives...and I can't explain it either, but it takes little more than asking in the right way in most cases. Yeah,... well,... if ya say "no", they bring this mean ass dog in and let him sniff around on ya car, and if he runs at ya and starts eatin' on ya leg afterwards they call it probable cause and search it anyway. So,.... you got two choices. Let the cops search ya car while ya gettin' et on by a dog,... or let 'em search ya car while ya just stand there.
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cause theyre waiting for me.
Theyre looking for me.
Evry single night theyre driving me insane.
Those men inside my brain.
The dream police, they live inside of my head.
The dream police, they come to me in my bed.
The dream police, theyre coming to arrest me.
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