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I'll throw in another New York event from my recent road trip... Busy four lane highway through an incorporated Township, I'm down to running on fumes, like we shoulda run out of gas five miles back, clearly at the last intersection we should have turned left. A break in traffic, I pull a quick u-turn, not ten seconds later the ol' familiar red and blues lit up in my rear view mirror. Busted fair and square, like death and taxes, one of them things, my turn to support the township... I right away pull into a parking lot and shut off the engine, both hands in sight, window down. Cop pulls up alongside, a township Cop in an unmarked cruiser, he presses the button to lower his passenger-side window and says... "I know you know better than to pull a u-turn on a busy highway, where ya trying to get to?". Then he gives me directions. He drove by later as we were getting gas. Near as I can tell, a good Cop keeping an eye on things in his town. And no, I wouldn't have thought different if he wrote me a ticket. Back in my motorcycle period I used to talk to Cops regularly (and a good thing Texas didn't have a point system  ). Rude Cops? Lying Cops? Pardon, I teach public school in a big city, the Cops I've dealt with ain't even scratched the surface... Birdwatcher
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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People will let you search their cars KNOWING full well what's in there will ruin their lives...and I can't explain it either, but it takes little more than asking in the right way in most cases. Yeah,... well,... if ya say "no", they bring this mean ass dog in and let him sniff around on ya car, and if he runs at ya and starts eatin' on ya leg afterwards they call it probable cause and search it anyway. So,.... you got two choices. Let the cops search ya car while ya gettin' et on by a dog,... or let 'em search ya car while ya just stand there. I seen a twist on that one too. back in my college days we got stopped near Laramie. They didn't even ask if they could search our pickup. A second cop car pulled up with this "pup" maybe 9 or 10 months old, and led him to the vehicle and unleashed him. He ran around wanting to play. they opened the truck door and let him in there. He ran around in there playing and looking out the windows. In the mean time the cops were watching him saying, "did you see that he indicated under the seat. Did you see that, he indicated the glove box. Did you see that, he indicated the visors. Then they lifted him in the back--guess what he indicated the tool box. then they let him out and he ran around playing in the barrow pit. Me and my pard were saying that dog didn't indicate anything--he just looked like a pup having fun. "Yeah, we say he was indicating stuff, so now were going to search". They did, of coarse there was nothing in the truck to incriminate us. I could of told them that and even would of let them look without all the theatrics. When they were all done I told them look now he's indicating that something's in your car.  I wish, just wish, they would do that with my Aussies setting on the toolbox under the camper shell sometime...."Sure officer, tell your dog to stick his nose into the back window of the pickup--I may have some bags of extra meth still laying around back there"........ Casey
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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People will let you search their cars KNOWING full well what's in there will ruin their lives...and I can't explain it either, but it takes little more than asking in the right way in most cases. Yeah,... well,... if ya say "no", they bring this mean ass dog in and let him sniff around on ya car, and if he runs at ya and starts eatin' on ya leg afterwards they call it probable cause and search it anyway. So,.... you got two choices. Let the cops search ya car while ya gettin' et on by a dog,... or let 'em search ya car while ya just stand there. I seen a twist on that one too. back in my college days we got stopped near Laramie. They didn't even ask if they could search our pickup. A second cop car pulled up with this "pup" maybe 9 or 10 months old, and led him to the vehicle and unleashed him. He ran around wanting to play. they opened the truck door and let him in there. He ran around in there playing and looking out the windows. In the mean time the cops were watching him saying, "did you see that he indicated under the seat. Did you see that, he indicated the glove box. Did you see that, he indicated the visors. Then they lifted him in the back--guess what he indicated the tool box. then they let him out and he ran around playing in the barrow pit. Me and my pard were saying that dog didn't indicate anything--he just looked like a pup having fun. "Yeah, we say he was indicating stuff, so now were going to search". They did, of coarse there was nothing in the truck to incriminate us. I could of told them that and even would of let them look without a the theatrics. When they were all done I told them look now he's indicating that something's in your car. 'least he didn't chit innit,..... He would've if my Auusies got a'holt of him......... Casey
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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Good way to end up really sad with a couple of dead dogs.
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Lewis-Their giving you somehing heavy duty for your injuries right?
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Yepper...That would be a good strategy!! Just Taser them. That thread would even beat the hell out of this one.
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
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I wish,
I figure I am about as serious as this thread needs.
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Good way to end up really sad with a couple of dead dogs. Is that typical of cops............the police officers insurance company would be a lot poorer--that is if I couldn't find out where they lived.......eh? Casey
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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I'd like to ablige ya Isaac, but bad dogs ain't worth a $15 taser cartridge...even if I ain't paying.
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About 100 percent of bad guys drive to and from crimes...about 100 percent of illegal drugs are in vehicles on highways at some point. Almost all kidnappers, rapists and murderers are in a car at some point...why is it so hard to understand that good cops stop cars for reasons other than to ticket the driver...it is called a pretexual stop...I see a guy with a warrant driving and roll a stop sign, I don't give a rats ass about the stop sign violation...I wanna arrest the guy....I see a guy i know has been pinched for drugs and I have a LAWFUL REASON to stop him, I stop him...It isn't always the traffic I want, it is many times something else....(However, I don't stop without a lawful reason....It isn't hard to make legal stops on just about any car....)
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Good way to end up really sad with a couple of dead dogs. Is that typical of cops............the police officers insurance company would be a lot poorer--that is if I couldn't find out where they lived.......eh? Casey Did you mean could?
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I'd like to ablige ya Isaac, but bad dogs ain't worth a $15 taser cartridge...even if I ain't paying. The problem is, arrogant lawyers are worth even less than bad dogs.... Casey
Last edited by alpinecrick; 06/25/07.
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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that is if I couldn't find out where they lived
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The police officer's insurance company?
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
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that is if I couldn't find out where they lived
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The police officer's insurance company? not hardly
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Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
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Good way to end up really sad with a couple of dead dogs. Is that typical of cops............the police officers insurance company would be a lot poorer--that is if I couldn't find out where they lived.......eh? Casey Did you mean could? No. The insurance company would be the alternative.......
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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About 100 percent of bad guys drive to and from crimes...about 100 percent of illegal drugs are in vehicles on highways at some point. Almost all kidnappers, rapists and murderers are in a car at some point...why is it so hard to understand that good cops stop cars for reasons other than to ticket the driver...it is called a pretexual stop...I see a guy with a warrant driving and roll a stop sign, I don't give a rats ass about the stop sign violation...I wanna arrest the guy....I see a guy i know has been pinched for drugs and I have a LAWFUL REASON to stop him, I stop him...It isn't always the traffic I want, it is many times something else....(However, I don't stop without a lawful reason....It isn't hard to make legal stops on just about any car....) hmmmmm,.....
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In the words of Barak...please elaborate.
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Interestingly, and in order to add a post to keep this thing rolling, we installed video cams in most of our cruisers and most of the "He stopped me for no reason" complaints stopped after the first year of reviewing the tapes with the complaintants....Word got out that we had them and the bogus complaints stopped....Not saying that every complaint has gone away, but about 95 percent of the time when the tapes are reviewed, the compalintant goes away....Several times kids have gone home and told great stories to their parents, who come down in a rage right up until the tape is shown of little Johnny doing just what the officer has alleged....The current videos are really nice...the officer can not erase them as they are digital on a hard drive and start 30 seconds before the stop, so almost always the reason for the stop is captured.... Course that can cut two ways. Perhaps officers are less likely to pull someone over for a BS charge if they are on camera. I personally wish that was mandatory in every jurisdiction. For the Officers sake and the public's. While the numbers of stops actually increased during this time, the number of complaints went down, and like I said the first year or so the complaints kept coming...After the camera news got passed around the bogus complaints stopped.... Nothing better than showing a drunk driver himself on video before a trial.....That usually ends the case....
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Good way to end up really sad with a couple of dead dogs. If I misunderstood you I apoligize. If not........ Casey
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