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Originally Posted by jwp475
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In the end, that doesn't matter because he was wrong to shoot at someone who was defending themselves from AK Boy.
How did he know the guy was defending himself
How did he know that he wasn't defending himself?
Sometimes we don't have answers, just opinions. There's one opinion that is going to be final, however - a jury's.




I doubt it goes to a jury


Maybe not a criminal jury. Not so sure in a civil suit. Black fiance in wheelchair is a powerful image in the media and the courtroom.


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Originally Posted by callnum
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If someone pointed a gun/rifle at me I think I’d be shooting back first before waiting to see what their intent was.

However, fleeing afterwards was not a good idea. But then if there were protesters/rioters all around, I can see why he did.



If someone is pointing a deadly weapon at you, you already KNOW their intent.


Yet the fire faithfully were ok with St Louie Biff and Buffy pointing their guns at protesters that never set foot on Biff's property.

A, You are wrong
B. totally different circumstances...


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Originally Posted by Dess
Originally Posted by jwp475
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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by BobBrown
In the end, that doesn't matter because he was wrong to shoot at someone who was defending themselves from AK Boy.
How did he know the guy was defending himself
How did he know that he wasn't defending himself?
Sometimes we don't have answers, just opinions. There's one opinion that is going to be final, however - a jury's.




I doubt it goes to a jury


Maybe not a criminal jury. Not so sure in a civil suit. Black fiance in wheelchair is a powerful image in the media and the courtroom.



Pointing an AK47 at someone is a good way to get shot legally



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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
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If any weapon that is brandished or fired toward me or my family (that I am actively protecting)...

I will retreat to the best of my ability.

If said threat continues to advance upon my retreat... I will respond by all means necessary to neutralize the assault of the aggressor against me and my family.

Whether said aggressor is stoned out of his gourd or not will be ascertained later.

I will take my chances with the investigating officers, the district attorney and or a jury of my peers.

I no longer travel in s******* cities. Best of luck to you that still do.
What has "retreat" got to do with this or anything else? Whoever came up with "duty to retreat" ought to be thrown in a dungeon and never let out. Throwing "retreat" into this mix only muddles things up.


If someone is brandishing... they already have drop on you because you failed to maintain situational awareness.

So you had better be faster and straighter than greased lighting.

Fight as you see fit... but remember please... you seem to have a lot of emotion and may urinate in your trousers before you can draw a weapon.


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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Originally Posted by jwp475
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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by BobBrown
In the end, that doesn't matter because he was wrong to shoot at someone who was defending themselves from AK Boy.
How did he know the guy was defending himself
How did he know that he wasn't defending himself?
Sometimes we don't have answers, just opinions. There's one opinion that is going to be final, however - a jury's.




I doubt it goes to a jury


Maybe not a criminal jury. Not so sure in a civil suit. Black fiance in wheelchair is a powerful image in the media and the courtroom.



Pointing an AK47 at someone is a good way to get shot legally



Pure fact.


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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Originally Posted by Dess
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by BobBrown
In the end, that doesn't matter because he was wrong to shoot at someone who was defending themselves from AK Boy.
How did he know the guy was defending himself
How did he know that he wasn't defending himself?
Sometimes we don't have answers, just opinions. There's one opinion that is going to be final, however - a jury's.




I doubt it goes to a jury


Maybe not a criminal jury. Not so sure in a civil suit. Black fiance in wheelchair is a powerful image in the media and the courtroom.

in texas, you can't be sued for acting in self defence.


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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
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looks like he thought the car drove into the crowd and opened fire not knowing foster had pointed the AK at the drive, both had their CCL.


In regards to the guy that shot at the car...


He should have been way the fug better informed before resorting to deadly force.

He needs his CCW removed immediately. And charges filed for reckless endangerment.


I certainly don’t know, but isn’t the Texas Dept of Public safety the custodians of CCW? State AG’s office might handle this? One would hope one or the other would see to this.



Yep. Dumbass needs his Permit suspended and revoked. And charges filed too. Agreed 100% Barry.

Yep, Bob, you are correct too. DPS is in charge of CHL / LTC Permits here in TX. I’d imagine they are in the process of revoking / Suspending his License asap.

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Originally Posted by CashisKing
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If any weapon that is brandished or fired toward me or my family (that I am actively protecting)...

I will retreat to the best of my ability.

If said threat continues to advance upon my retreat... I will respond by all means necessary to neutralize the assault of the aggressor against me and my family.

Whether said aggressor is stoned out of his gourd or not will be ascertained later.

I will take my chances with the investigating officers, the district attorney and or a jury of my peers.

I no longer travel in s******* cities. Best of luck to you that still do.
What has "retreat" got to do with this or anything else? Whoever came up with "duty to retreat" ought to be thrown in a dungeon and never let out. Throwing "retreat" into this mix only muddles things up.


If someone is brandishing... they already have thecdrop on you because you failed to maintain situational awareness.

So you had better be faster and straighter than greased lighting.

Fight as you see fit... but remember please... you seem to have a lot of emotion and may urinate in your trousers before you can draw a weapon.



And urine may effect the grip on your weapon in an unexpected manner.


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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Whats all this crap about the Foster guy never firing his gun...you can hear his first 5 shots in the video.

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Originally Posted by callnum
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Yet the fire faithfully were ok with St Louie Biff and Buffy pointing their guns at protesters that never set foot on Biff's property.


Oh look.

Another Lyin' Dumbass shows up.


Always falls back on 8th grade debate tactics. Predicable.

You mean like calling them Biff and Buffy?

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Originally Posted by killerv
Whats all this crap about the Foster guy never firing his gun...you can hear his first 5 shots in the video.



Police Chief says that was AK Boy getting killed by the guy in the car after running up and pointing a rifle.

The next 3 shots were from a complete moron shooting at the car as it tried to escape the violent mob surrounding it, and beating on it.


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Originally Posted by dassa
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Yet the fire faithfully were ok with St Louie Biff and Buffy pointing their guns at protesters that never set foot on Biff's property.


Oh look.

Another Lyin' Dumbass shows up.


Always falls back on 8th grade debate tactics. Predicable.

You mean like calling them Biff and Buffy?

Liberals love to accuse others of what they do themselves. Stupid fugks


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Originally Posted by Dess
Maybe not a criminal jury. Not so sure in a civil suit. Black fiance in wheelchair is a powerful image in the media and the courtroom.
You can tell he really loved her because, apparently, he dated her for 10+ years and never married her.


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Originally Posted by dassa

You mean like calling them Biff and Buffy?


Beside that fact of breaking down a private gate (felony), and criminally trespassing on a common owned road the couple did in fact have ownership in, and hearing the terroristic threats from the violent mob?


He's just another lyin' sack o shat.


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For all the Texans on here:

The Texas Motorist Protection Act (HB 1815), effective as of September 1, 2007

Since 2007 you haven't been required to have a CHL to "legally" carry a loaded pistol in your vehicle.

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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by stxhunter
looks like he thought the car drove into the crowd and opened fire not knowing foster had pointed the AK at the drive, both had their CCL.


In regards to the guy that shot at the car...


He should have been way the fug better informed before resorting to deadly force.

He needs his CCW removed immediately. And charges filed for reckless endangerment.

Yup, he was not in danger or fear for his life, or that of another.

He should be charged.


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Fire regulars like rockingbar always fall back to simple name calling when getting their azz kicked.

If one of the ST Louie protesters had been carrying Biff and Buffy would have been in trouble. Same as Austin.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
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Maybe not a criminal jury. Not so sure in a civil suit. Black fiance in wheelchair is a powerful image in the media and the courtroom.
You can tell he really loved her because, apparently, he dated her for 10+ years and never married her.


At least he didn't have to worry about her going somewhere else when he left her somewhere... laugh


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Leave her on the front porch and call her "Matt". laugh

Those damn gender-bending names these days.

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Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by stxhunter
looks like he thought the car drove into the crowd and opened fire not knowing foster had pointed the AK at the drive, both had their CCL.


In regards to the guy that shot at the car...


He should have been way the fug better informed before resorting to deadly force.

He needs his CCW removed immediately. And charges filed for reckless endangerment.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


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As far as I know, at least here in MT. pointing a weapon at someone is considered assault with a deadly weapon.

THAT can be met with lethal force.


A fleeing suspect, unless he(she) is obviously an immediate and deadly threat to society at large should not be taken under fire

At that point the use of force has de-escalated and if you shoot....you have re-escalated it....putting bystanders in harms way and making you wrong.


Sound about right?


Yes.

Sounds exactly right.


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