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Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: skinney_7] #14911025 05/25/20
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Originally Posted by skinney_7
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Speaking of Revic does anyone have one? I watch their show regularly and all I see them use is NF scopes. It’s puzzling to me they spend all this time and effort promoting Revic scopes and all they use is NF.


I have a few Revics, with the RT1 and RX1 reticles. Great optics I'll post a couple links below using them, I'm working on some reviews here soon...

I'll also post the official statement made by Gunwerks that they just released, sounds like more than a few here are uninformed.

GW statement
https://youtu.be/7iK7rEOyrZU

Revic usage.
https://youtu.be/DsliBXocv5M


Seems like your posting here is more about pimping your video......

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Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: jimy] #14911150 05/25/20
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Originally Posted by jimy
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Paying ten grand to have a rifle built is insane! Scam artist to the ‘inth’ degree!


Actually no its not, take 30% for profit and growth, that leaves you 7 grand to work with , @ $125.00 per hour shop rate and you have 56 hours of work time in building a high quality rifle and sighting system that is always ready to achieve a high level of accuracy in any temperatures. Not an easy task.

If you don't need one that's fine, I don't know anyone that needs a Ferrari but they sell as many of them as they can make.

I doubt any of us will get the whole story, and unless you have a vested interest then its really no one else's business but the buyers !

I wish them the best of luck, and still F~ck the banks !


If it takes them 56 hours to put a rifle together then that explains their money issues.



Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: JohnBurns] #14912120 05/26/20
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Actually D'Arcy Echols, Kenny Jarrett and others spend a lot of time developing a rifle, loads, etc, stuff most Loony types would do themselves.

And, those guys charge a real premium, an amount a self respecting Loony would never pay. But, there are those who want the package without doing any of the development or work. Unfortunately, many of those who don't want to do the development, don't want to put in the time at the range. Thus, they end up with more rifle than they can actually use effectively...

I guess there'll always be a market, although probably somewhat limited, for those services.

Maybe some smoke and mirrors included, but "buyer beware" is still a valid warning...

Spending a bunch doesn't make one a competent shooter, may actually be a hindrance, as there's no sub for experience.

Assuming because you have a very expensive rig put together by some guru, you are a LR shooter...

NOT!

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Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: JohnBurns] #14912536 05/26/20
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Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: JohnBurns] #14914682 05/27/20
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So if you don't follow the terms of the loan what happens? I never thought much of Wells-Fargo. Be Well, Rustyzipper.

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Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: JohnBurns] #15012848 07/01/20
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you see the press release

Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: JGRaider] #15015995 07/02/20
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Originally Posted by JGRaider
stiffing the gov't out of their taxes will land your happy asss in deep doodoo. They'll be history.


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Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: JohnBurns] #15068050 07/20/20
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Dunno about their rifles, but somebody at Gunwerks could edit the hell out of a YouTube video.

Used to watch them with sound off.


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Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: jimy] #15070663 07/21/20
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Don't know about that jimy but if I had that kinda cash I'd have George Gardner of GAP build it and know I was getting my monies worth. MB

Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: Sharpsman] #15071715 07/22/20
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Originally Posted by Sharpsman
Paying ten grand to have a rifle built is insane! Scam artist to the ‘inth’ degree!



I disagree. Well, I agree you can get an equally functional rifle for a lot less money, but if buyers are willing to pay that much for the GW product, how is that GW's fault? They found a demand and filled it. That is not scamming. It's just good business.


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Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: JohnBurns] #15075036 07/23/20
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How is John Burns business doing?

Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: JohnBurns] #15075208 07/23/20
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Did some shooting with a couple of Gunwerk's, customers last year, Their rifles and scopes were top notch, and they had a ton of their custom ammo,They had damn sure spent some money, but the guy's had not put in the time to learn their rifles and ammo, I think they thought they could buy what ever skill they needed, to shoot long range. they damn sure drank the Gunwerk's kool aid. Who was that said , there's a sucker born every day?? Rio7

Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: pathfinder76] #15075325 07/23/20
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Originally Posted by pathfinder76
How is John Burns business doing?



Ask him he's been posting quite frequently


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Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: RIO7] #15076544 07/24/20
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Originally Posted by RIO7

Who was that said , there's a sucker born every day?? Rio7

That would have been E P Barnum , (theres one born every minit).
Nice thing about videos is that they usualy turn out as they were intended to turn out.

Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: Dirtfarmer] #15076767 07/24/20
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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by 44mc
he is just running the company like the NRA runs theirs

Not a good model.

A for profit turning into a no profit is a formula for ruin.

And fleecing the “sheep“ seems to be the current NRA business model, benefiting only top bureaucrats.

Until the board runs mgt, not the other way around, don’t pass the hat my way.

Board seems more window dressing, PR activists with no mgt authority.

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DF,

I completely agree with you. The top brass at NRA needs to be fired and escorted to their vehicles. Mark O'Keefe would be a better leader than the bunch we have now. Ollie tried to move in on LaPierre and got ousted quickly. Chris Cox is gone also. The NRA needs leaders like Harlon Carter and Neal Knox. They lead the 1970s revolution and subsequently made the NRA better for a long time.

We don't need top leaders at the NRA wearing their $5000 dollar suits and taking African trophy hunts with their Blaser rifles.


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Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: model70man] #15077515 07/24/20
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Check out Wayne LaPierre's salary at the end of 2018.

https://www.charitywatch.org/top-charity-salaries


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Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: JohnBurns] #15077548 07/24/20
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I can't see that the NRA has ever done anything but fearmonger to raise money, then support gun control legislation when it suited their purposes. Maybe it was different when the organization was first created.

I will keep on saying this: research it, and you will find that every unconstitutional gun law passed at the federal level has been supported by the NRA. Doesn't sound like a gun rights lobbying group to me.


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Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: 4th_point] #15099137 07/31/20
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In the Gunwriter forum, I believe. Burns started at least three separate threads about Wells Fargo vs. Gunwerks.
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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Davidson has always come across as a little prick if you ask me. Stiffing the bank is one thing, stiffing the gov't out of their taxes will land your happy asss in deep doodoo. They'll be history. Their $10k "systems" are a joke anyway.

Did he leave a post here earlier?

Or am I dreaming?

Must have deleted it.

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In the Gunwriter forum, I believe. Burns started at least three separate threads about Wells Fargo vs. Gunwerks.


Anyone who does business with the criminal conspiracy known as Wells Fargo Bank almost deserves what they get. I’m sure Gunwerks was able to get enough credit to pay WFB off. Davidson struck me as credible. I deal with banks all the time and it doesn’t surprise me that they don’t understand business.
On another note, $10+K for a custom rifle that includes a decent scope is NOT a rip-off by a Longshot.

I have $6.75K in my Anschütz 1727F with scope. And it’s a rimfire.

Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: jimy] #15099814 08/01/20
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Originally Posted by jimy
Originally Posted by Sharpsman
Paying ten grand to have a rifle built is insane! Scam artist to the ‘inth’ degree!


Actually no its not, take 30% for profit and growth, that leaves you 7 grand to work with , @ $125.00 per hour shop rate and you have 56 hours of work time in building a high quality rifle and sighting system that is always ready to achieve a high level of accuracy in any temperatures. Not an easy task.

If you don't need one that's fine, I don't know anyone that needs a Ferrari but they sell as many of them as they can make.

I doubt any of us will get the whole story, and unless you have a vested interest then its really no one else's business but the buyers !

I wish them the best of luck, and still F~ck the banks !


Their cost is not $125 an hour for their shop rate. You're accounting for profit twice.

Re: Wells Fargo sues Gunwerks [Re: JohnBurns] #15100188 08/01/20
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Take the money and run. Might look off shore.


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