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Got my truck gun out yesterday for my grandson to bang away at some rocks and just happened to notice both rings are cracked clear through the clamping screws. I’ve never seen or heard about these coming apart. Scope is a leupold 6x36 so not exactly a heavyweight. Browning stainless stalker in 22-250 so not much of a kicker either.
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Did you use a torque driver or tighten them by feel?
Probably the same question Talley will ask.
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Got my truck gun out yesterday for my grandson to bang away at some rocks and just happened to notice both rings are cracked clear through the clamping screws. I’ve never seen or heard about these coming apart. Scope is a leupold 6x36 so not exactly a heavyweight. Browning stainless stalker in 22-250 so not much of a kicker either.
Thanks, Fred That happens with them or so Big Stick says.
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I used a wheeler fat baby torque wrench but can’t remember the inch pounds off hand. That scope’s been on there at least 10 years. I haven’t shot it in a while.
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You must be talking about the lightweights. In my experience and that of a couple friends, even properly torqued they seem prone to failure as you've experienced. Talley will replace them for you. They seem to be the leupold of rings, working fine until suddenly they don't, with free replacement once you get home. All of which isn't really any help at all if you're out on a hunt at the time. Their QD rings are outstanding however.
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Yes, Talley's are guaranteed. I use a Wheeler FAT wrench on my rings and mounts and torque to specs, and I had a pair of lightweights break a little over a year ago. I wrote Talley, and they asked for a picture. I sent them one and a week later I had two new top halves of the rings in the mail.
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You must be talking about the lightweights. In my experience and that of a couple friends, even properly torqued they seem prone to failure as you've experienced. Talley will replace them for you. They seem to be the leupold of rings, working fine until suddenly they don't, with free replacement once you get home. All of which isn't really any help at all if you're out on a hunt at the time. Their QD rings are outstanding however. I just put a set of the screw-detachable Talleys on a Mauser. Very nice stuff, and priced to match. No trouble with the lightweights yet. I torque them to no more than 20 inch pounds, and that's held on rifles up to .30/06 with scopes up to about a pound, not for many rounds though.
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They will replace them. They stand behind their products
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I suggest you switch to DNZ Game Reaper mount. I've had excellent service from DNZ mounts!
I've heard and seen too many instances just like you had with Talley rings.
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I've had it happen twice. After exploring many options, I've gone straight utilitarian with picatinny on everything.
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I've been using the lightweight Talleys on two NULAS, a .308 (ten years and many rounds) and a 7x61 Sharpe & Hart (eight years and well over two thousand rounds) without problems. Tighten to specs. The Talley staff is great to deal with.
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I've had it happen twice. After exploring many options, I've gone straight utilitarian with picatinny on everything. I really wish a company would focus on making LOW pic bases. I could care less if the spacing where the screws are located isn't straight mil-spec if they have to make one wider to accommodate the attachment screws. Burris XT two piece is the closest thing but I'd like to see the same as a one piece....even if it had only a partial width over the action.
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I've had it happen twice. After exploring many options, I've gone straight utilitarian with picatinny on everything. I really wish a company would focus on making LOW pic bases. I could care less if the spacing where the screws are located isn't straight mil-spec if they have to make one wider to accommodate the attachment screws. Burris XT two piece is the closest thing but I'd like to see the same as a one piece....even if it had only a partial width over the action. +1.
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I've had it happen twice. After exploring many options, I've gone straight utilitarian with picatinny on everything. I really wish a company would focus on making LOW pic bases. I could care less if the spacing where the screws are located isn't straight mil-spec if they have to make one wider to accommodate the attachment screws. Burris XT two piece is the closest thing but I'd like to see the same as a one piece....even if it had only a partial width over the action. +1. add me to that list as well
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I use the Talley bases and rings. Don’t like the lightweights.
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I've had it happen twice. After exploring many options, I've gone straight utilitarian with picatinny on everything. I really wish a company would focus on making LOW pic bases. I could care less if the spacing where the screws are located isn't straight mil-spec if they have to make one wider to accommodate the attachment screws. Burris XT two piece is the closest thing but I'd like to see the same as a one piece....even if it had only a partial width over the action. Color me ignorant. What are LOW pic bases?
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Color me ignorant. What are LOW pic bases?
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Color me ignorant. What are LOW pic bases?
Not so HIGH pic bases.....
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If there were a demand for low picatinny rings and bases they would make them.
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