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This is such a Bull Sh***t case. This guy is the new national martyr for black people? Absurd.
Let's go back to the Occupy Wall Street movement in 2011. Just more Socialist BS.
The current George Floyd movement shows that there is a large group of anti-American, Socialist radicals ready to charge out in the streets and start destroying things, at a moment's notice. There aren't that many of them but, they are radicals, they are violent, and they are ready to try to overthrow our country. Mostly, upper class white kids.
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They deserved each other same as Trayvon and Zimmerman. Good to know Paul Barnard could have talked him down. Geez I am not guaranteeing I could have. I am telling you that I would have put more effort into it. It's one of the things I was fortunate to be good at. I rarely dealt with hardened criminal types though. Mr. Paul: Are you a LEO, or counselor of some type?
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This video was released to pour more gas on the GF fire....it needs to burn out of control until the election.
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It showed a mildly resistive subject, an officers who could have put a better effort into deescalating and calming the subject.
Ever try and reason with a multi convicted violent felon high on large doses of meth and fentanyl? I can't say that I have. I can say that I have had a few of the pleading (several even crying) types like that and have been able to calm them to some degree with a modicum of effort. There's really not much to lose in trying, particularly not after they are in cuffs. I know what would reflect more favorably on the officer at this point. Juries can arrive at emotional rather than logical conclusions. Classic...
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It showed a mildly resistive subject, an officers who could have put a better effort into deescalating and calming the subject.
Here we go again....mr Quaker chimes in again. LOL
Due to the increased price of ammo, don't expect a warning shot...
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They fugged up, he fugged up now he dead and family won the Ghetto Lottery.
No matter what he did there was no need to knee his neck to the pavement for that long with FOUR male officers on scene. Roll his big ass on his side and pin him to the car wheel.
And I have arrested and detained people on every drug known most likely. Many larger than me at 6'3 280 yoked out like a gorilla back in the day.
My biggest heartache with it, and what will prove to be a big hurdle in court, is why Chauvin did absolutely nothing when his partner told him that he couldn't detect a pulse on Floyd. I'd like to slap the schidt out of Chauvin for that. The world should be a better place without that piece of garbage. He should have been in prison still, likely would be alive. LOL
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People that think you can talk to somebody on drugs with a thug mentality should do a ride along with a cop that deals with a lot of the current black culture. You’ll change your mind pretty quick and realize they typically have a lot of patience.
And other than my friends that are cops I really don’t care for them as a group.
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They deserved each other same as Trayvon and Zimmerman.
Good to know Paul Barnard could have talked him down. Geez I am not guaranteeing I could have. I am telling you that I would have put more effort into it. It's one of the things I was fortunate to be good at. I rarely dealt with hardened criminal types though. How many meth heads high on meth have you managed to have a logical and meaningful conversation with at your work the past ten years? Do you have the slightest, I mean the slightest clue how illogical and manipulative drug addicts are? Particularly those who don't want to go back to prison? lmao
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It showed a mildly resistive subject, an officers who could have put a better effort into deescalating and calming the subject.
So a handjob is your solution?
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It showed a mildly resistive subject, an officers who could have put a better effort into deescalating and calming the subject.
So a handjob is your solution? A hand job and a rainbow colored lollipop would have easily deescalated the situation and Floyd would be still alive today.
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How long has George been drug-free now? I've lost count. He's never going to catch up with Janis Joplin, John Belushi, Michael Jackson, or Prince, no matter how hard he tries!
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Perfecto! Jim for the wim!
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It showed a mildly resistive subject, an officers who could have put a better effort into deescalating and calming the subject.
So a handjob is your solution? A hand job and a rainbow colored lollipop would have easily deescalated the situation and Floyd would be still alive today. Some purple drank and a full tank of gas to get home is all he needed.
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Two observations:
1.starting the conversation with a gun in the face did not end well. Seemed to be the point of escalation. 2. what was the underlying detention for? The counterfeit $20? Is that a misdemeanor in MN? If so, is it even an arrestable offense if it did not occur in the presence of the officers? In most states it would be a misdemeanor and not arrestable, rather, go get warrants and then arrest.
Which brings us back to the initial encounter and the gun in the face.
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Two observations:
1.starting the conversation with a gun in the face did not end well. Seemed to be the point of escalation. 2. what was the underlying detention for? The counterfeit $20? Is that a misdemeanor in MN? If so, is it even an arrestable offense if it did not occur in the presence of the officers? In most states it would be a misdemeanor and not arrestable, rather, go get warrants and then arrest.
Which brings us back to the initial encounter and the gun in the face.
Watch the video again. The point of escalation with Floyd not showing his hands.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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This is such a Bull Sh***t case. This guy is the new national martyr for black people? Absurd.
Let's go back to the Occupy Wall Street movement in 2011. Just more Socialist BS.
The current George Floyd movement shows that there is a large group of anti-American, Socialist radicals ready to charge out in the streets and start destroying things, at a moment's notice. There aren't that many of them but, they are radicals, they are violent, and they are ready to try to overthrow our country. Mostly, upper class white kids. No. this guy is the new national excuse for a communist insurgency to attempt to overthrow a duly elected president.
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Two observations:
1.starting the conversation with a gun in the face did not end well. Seemed to be the point of escalation. 2. what was the underlying detention for? The counterfeit $20? Is that a misdemeanor in MN? If so, is it even an arrestable offense if it did not occur in the presence of the officers? In most states it would be a misdemeanor and not arrestable, rather, go get warrants and then arrest.
Which brings us back to the initial encounter and the gun in the face.
Curious what was Floyd's criminal history? Was he on probation? The media referred to him as a hard working gentle giant who had a CDL and was hard working. and a wonderful father to his children. Is that true? What is the entire background story that led up to his arrest? Was it just the counterfeit bill? Why did they wait so long to release the body cam video? BTW it was released not by the PD , someone leaked it. Curious if you have all of the information or just media obfuscation?
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What is the big deal? If a big black cop had a huge uncooperative white chronic criminal that was out of it on a cocktail of drugs and this criminal happened to die while being manhandled by the police, the white citizenry would shrug and say "oh well"
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
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I am not guaranteeing I could have. I am telling you that I would have put more effort into it. It's one of the things I was fortunate to be good at. I rarely dealt with hardened criminal types though. Were you LEO or a counselor or maybe Coast Gaurd?
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
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I am not guaranteeing I could have. I am telling you that I would have put more effort into it. It's one of the things I was fortunate to be good at. I rarely dealt with hardened criminal types though. Were you LEO or a counselor or maybe Coast Guard?laffin’ here
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