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I need to up my post count
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"It's a terrible thing when governments send their young men to kill each other." Charles Byrne,WW2 Vet.
On the day Desert Storm began.
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Actually Paul, you are criticizing Wilson, and almost in the same breath exposing yourself as a narcissist by relaying your CG experience. Then trying to down play that by qualifying to everyone that CG LE is nothing like an inner city patrol cop. The simple fact is. Guys on the street don't have the luxury of backing off and waiting for back up. Let's take Wilson/Brown.....we have an individual who has already assaulted an officer and attempted to disarm him. First where do you think the liability falls if that same suspect is allowed to continue his tirade on the public while an officer "patiently maintains distant contact" while waiting for back up? Give your writings here I am quite certain you would sleep very soundly if that same subject killed some granny while you were waiting for back up instead of engaging him. You and I aren't the same.
In fact for a large part of my career many, many times my closest back up was 30-40 minutes away and that was only if the State Police had some one on that side of the county. He doesn't have a clue. If he did actually encounter crime during his career it would have been aboard a fast boat in the company of plenty of help with no hostile crowd gathering and catcalling to build up nerve to intervene. You and I have done it both ways, with an isolated criminal and plenty of backup, and out in the boondocks on foot one on one or even one on multiple with a subject that could just run off and continue his criminal life if we "disengaged". No need to discourse with him any further.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
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Actually Paul, you are criticizing Wilson, and almost in the same breath exposing yourself as a narcissist by relaying your CG experience. Then trying to down play that by qualifying to everyone that CG LE is nothing like an inner city patrol cop. The simple fact is. Guys on the street don't have the luxury of backing off and waiting for back up. Let's take Wilson/Brown.....we have an individual who has already assaulted an officer and attempted to disarm him. First where do you think the liability falls if that same suspect is allowed to continue his tirade on the public while an officer "patiently maintains distant contact" while waiting for back up? Give your writings here I am quite certain you would sleep very soundly if that same subject killed some granny while you were waiting for back up instead of engaging him. You and I aren't the same.
In fact for a large part of my career many, many times my closest back up was 30-40 minutes away and that was only if the State Police had some one on that side of the county. Fantastic post and thank you for your service. I did not in any way mean to sidetrack this thread. I just found Paul’s posts funny. All of you stay safe and have a great day. Well except all you liberal twits...
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Plain and simple George Floyd sold drugs to children! He should have been strung up by the neck until dead on a public street for all drug dealers to see and ANYONE who sales drugs should receive the same punishment! Problem is we live in a pussy society where criminals who destroy the lives of children have more rights than the children they are destroying
Trystan
Good bullets properly placed always work, but not everyone knows what good bullets are, or can reliably place them in the field
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Unfortunately the kinder gentler world of police work that PB advocates is probably the future. Politicians will castrate street cops in many areas by removing tools and tactics that work and cops will become much less aggressive in trying to limit the power of the savages among us.
Paul spoke theoretically of de escalation of volatile situations as if it is little used. Every good street cop I ever knew, even those that liked a good fight, was very adept at gerbil voodoo and constantly honed his vocabulary and maximized his command presence. This is nothing new. But when you tell some slobbering, drug crazed awhole to do something he better believe that you mean it and that he will never, ever win.
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Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that.
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Actually Paul, you are criticizing Wilson, and almost in the same breath exposing yourself as a narcissist by relaying your CG experience. Then trying to down play that by qualifying to everyone that CG LE is nothing like an inner city patrol cop. The simple fact is. Guys on the street don't have the luxury of backing off and waiting for back up. Let's take Wilson/Brown.....we have an individual who has already assaulted an officer and attempted to disarm him. First where do you think the liability falls if that same suspect is allowed to continue his tirade on the public while an officer "patiently maintains distant contact" while waiting for back up? Give your writings here I am quite certain you would sleep very soundly if that same subject killed some granny while you were waiting for back up instead of engaging him. You and I aren't the same.
In fact for a large part of my career many, many times my closest back up was 30-40 minutes away and that was only if the State Police had some one on that side of the county. We've already seen that dumbass liberal model. It's called Parkland. Yeah. It failed.. hideously.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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Plain and simple George Floyd sold drugs to children! He should have been strung up by the neck until dead on a public street for all drug dealers to see and ANYONE who sales drugs should receive the same punishment! Problem is we live in a pussy society where criminals who destroy the lives of children have more rights than the children they are destroying
Trystan Light poles.. Multi-purpose light poles.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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We've already seen that dumbass liberal model. It's called Parkland.Yeah. It failed.. hideously. Did it ever FAIL. Perfect example of why you don't disengage and wait on backup. If I was that school deputy I would either shoot myself or change my name and move far far away.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
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I’m glad Floyd didn’t resist .
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We've already seen that dumbass liberal model. It's called Parkland.Yeah. It failed.. hideously. Did it ever FAIL. Perfect example of why you don't disengage and wait on backup. If I was that school deputy I would either shoot myself or change my name and move far far away. I'm not going to condone what that deputy did but that was protocol until post-Columbine. And BCSO never trained their people on the new protocols. That's why Israel was removed as he should have been.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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We've already seen that dumbass liberal model. It's called Parkland.Yeah. It failed.. hideously. Did it ever FAIL. Perfect example of why you don't disengage and wait on backup. If I was that school deputy I would either shoot myself or change my name and move far far away. I'm not going to condone what that deputy did but that was protocol until post-Columbine. And BCSO never trained their people on the new protocols. That's why Israel was removed as he should have been. Absolutely correct. Scott Israel is right at the helm of responsibility for Parkland. If you're streaming Fox News, you will be amazed at the number of "Reinstate Scott Israel" ads being run. Where the hell is all that money coming from?
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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We've already seen that dumbass liberal model. It's called Parkland.Yeah. It failed.. hideously. Did it ever FAIL. Perfect example of why you don't disengage and wait on backup. If I was that school deputy I would either shoot myself or change my name and move far far away. I'm not going to condone what that deputy did but that was protocol until post-Columbine. And BCSO never trained their people on the new protocols. That's why Israel was removed as he should have been. That begs the question of whether he was actually stupid or another administrator that doesn't believe in "warrior cops". We are 20 years past columbine. It's hard to believe an agency that size has not been trained on current standards and protocols. Christ even the itty bitty agencies in our county have had most of their guys go to active shooter trainings. Was Israel in the CG?
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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