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Has anyone noticed when using the 358 all the blood and tissue fragments on the ground? It's always in a straight line for 4 to 6 feet on the exit side. I have not seen this with 7mm or '06 although I may have missed it.
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Has anyone noticed when using the 358 all the blood and tissue fragments on the ground? It's always in a straight line for 4 to 6 feet on the exit side. I have not seen this with 7mm or '06 although I may have missed it. Yes sir, they seem to pull a bunch of stuff from the exit holes. That Sierra expands pretty widely from the few times I have put it into water jugs, to the order of .750-.800"
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Personally I’d lean toward the TTSX over the TSX. It’s supposed to expand at a little lower velocities, which could buy your a few extra yards to work with! It’s difficult to beat Barnes mono bullets on big game! Good Luck with whatever you choose! memtb
After randomly asking about a specific bullet, I ALWAYS email Barnes about new rifles/loads. Here is the reply about their .358 offerings. MANY of their bullets have different design windows. I have been quoted anywhere from 1500 FPS (168 TTSX .308) up to 2000 FPS for the min opening velocity depending on the bullet in reference. <<< The 180 will open down to 1900 fps, the 200 gr. will open down to 1800 fps and the 225 will open down to 1600 fps. >>>
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As Judman pointed out earlier, the 358 Win doesn't require fancy bullets to make it shine. No point in using bullets like Barnes in 358. It produces modest velocities that are ideal for cup/core bullets on large game. The monolithics are long for their weight, which is a significant detriment in the small package that is the 358. Which 358 cup/core bullet of appropriate weight WON'T work for elk?
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my rem. 600 in 350 loves the 225 nosler. deer never move. 1 big black bear went 2 to 3 feet before belly up. shot him at 27 feet. don't know what it weight was but f & g said the hide was 7' 1 " head was 19 13/16 just short of book.
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Benbo- Does your old 99 have a crescent shaped, metal butt plate (I am not familiar w/ late 50's or early 60's Savages)? If so, you might want to try the Barnes 180 gr. TTSX for some recoil reduction while still maintaining an elk capable projectile. I have been working up loads for the 180 TTSX in my Ruger Hawkeye SS with Ramshot TAC & X-Terminator. 2809 fps average w/ TAC and, so far, 2715 fps w/ X-terminator (capable of more). These velocities may be too much for a 99 even though I observed no high pressure indications. -Mark
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Benbo- Does your old 99 have a crescent shaped, metal butt plate (I am not familiar w/ late 50's or early 60's Savages)? If so, you might want to try the Barnes 180 gr. TTSX for some recoil reduction while still maintaining an elk capable projectile. I have been working up loads for the 180 TTSX in my Ruger Hawkeye SS with Ramshot TAC & X-Terminator. 2809 fps average w/ TAC and, so far, 2715 fps w/ X-terminator (capable of more). These velocities may be too much for a 99 even though I observed no high pressure indications. -Mark I load the 180 TTSX a grain under max for my 99. No pressure signs. Action opens easy, very very accurate in that rifle.
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