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WHAT YOU TALKIN WILLIS????
Where and why this total fallacy about unsupported chambers REFUSES TO DIE is solely routed in IGNORANCE!!
ALL AUTO CHAMBERS are "looser" for reliability. The brass in the case Inherently within its design, has a web thats much thicker and stronger and withstands pressure limits within design perimeters. When these are exceeded THINGS HAPPEN. But its not the fault of the chamber or the forearm.
I have all three flavors of Glock 10mm... I have two flavors of COLT 10mm... I have multiple KKM, LONE WOLF & aftermarket barrels. I have ahot and tested many dozens of lods for decades and never saw a problem untill I got a Carbine assembly and saw the limitations of a unlocked blow back. Even this and the bulged cases where NOT A FAULT of a "unsupported" chamber. They where a result of pressur curves unfriemdly to the unlocked breech design. I regularly shoot a worked up handload with a Cast 220 HP and Bluedot at just shy of 1200 from the G29 and 1250 + from the G40 6"!
ZERO NONE NADA BULDGE.
Cw
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Campfire Ranger
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cwlongshot, i also have been searching in vain for bulged cases and smiley faces for some time now. I shoot hard cast lead, XTp's, and AA#9 powder, frankly I am beginning to wonder if the limiting factor with #9 is if you can seat the bullet far enough down to function in a g20? Have you tried 14 grains of AA#9 and a 200?
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I can't tell you much about Glock 10mms; but the only Glock that totally disassembled itself in my circle of friends was a brand new G20, in 1991 or 1992. First shot from a new gun. The cartridge was a reload, one of many cranked out by cops who shot pusedo-IPSC at a local gun club. The ammo was immediately blamed until we loaded two mags directly from the box that wrecked the G20 and fired them from a Colt Delta- without incident. This problem was a lot more prevalent in 40 caliber Glocks, until Glock quietly increased chamber support. http://www.thesixgunjournal.net/an-...ack-thereof-in-glock-40-caliber-pistols/
Last edited by SargeMO; 08/16/20.
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Not a 10, so, whatever.
My neighbor and friend was loading for his early G26. Being the type of guy he is, he shot up a case of ammo. Tracked down every dam one of the empties and loaded them all. Jacketed bullets, book loads.
They all had a smiley.
I was there 2 of the 3 times when a smiley lined up with the chamber excatly like the first shot.
It would blow the mag out, and sting the heck out of his hands.
Never damaged the gun at all.
He quit using the ammo, what happened to it next was even better but not important here.
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Campfire Ranger
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It can be normal to pull the charging handle twice after a beer or two and load one cartridge with a double shot, this is not possible with some powders, I often wonder in regards to the many glock spontaneous disassembles if the problem was a bad reload. How many people have seen first hand a glock disassemble with a factory cartridge? Please raise your hand to be counted.
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Well, it seems like good insurance to run a fully supported chamber with the Glocks, if you want to run hot loads.
I'd be looking at $350 for the 21, plus another 250 or so for a KKM barrel and a couple of mags..
Its worth sleeping on.
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