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DBT,

their God wouldn't have it (sin) any other way.
the script was written prior to Adam and the
Big Bang.. 😂

GFY. Was this nation dedicated to Ally?

Joo

If not for Eve, we'd be living in the Garden of Eden.

It might feel good to kick God, but there is a reason for the saying, "HE who laughs last.....".

Come on Jack. Be nice, then when you get to Heaven you can spit on GOD for WW2.

Wrong.

If not for Adam taking Eves advice.

We may not have much choice on the schools, we can sure fire keep The Lord God Jesus in our hearts.

You missed the point.

When will Christianity address its shortcomings?

Every supposed christian on the CF fails to address
them.

I agree, heinous crimes against children is a sin. But what possible reason could there be for a higher power/God, to allow such sickening things to happen to such innocent victims? There's no way I can wrap my mind around it.
There's absolutely no reason that a God, could allow this to happen. Thus my dilemma.

You know, Jack, you're right and God is wrong. Its apparent that with your high IQ you have HIM behind the 8 ball. You've accomplished what the the greatest angel couldnt do.

Your logic has completely defeated Him. All right. Good job. Such logic and originality. Congrats.

Why, if HE had a reason for what HE does or why, we would know it and be able to explain it to you. Since we cant, that means youre the winner.

Why did He allow it...? I don’t know. It’s a conundrum for LOTS of us...and for good reason. He allowed it, He had His reasons for doing so, and I sure as heck can’t discern it. Bad things happen to good people. Bad things happen to innocent children. He allowed horrible pain, suffering, and death to happen to the best possible person. He was without sin, and yet...He was tortured and executed. His ways are not my ways...and it would be folly for me to imagine such a thing. Although I want to know why...I don’t have to know why. He knows. And it’s His knowing that is overwhelming to me, it’s His knowing that is completely real to me. And I don’t want to be apart from Him just because I can’t grasp all of this. He can grasp it.

It's not so much that God allows bad things to happen, but that there appears to be no sign of a God in the world and its events.

Never underestimate the power of faith,
Christians that claim to see the devil
in their chidren and kill them, and those
Muslims that detonate suicide vests
are driven by faith... and it was those of
faith that gleed in witch hunts and burnings,
blamed jews for the black plague..

The CF has kooks of similar mindset.

It's something that many if us consider important enough to think about.
Some excellent points have been made better than me. There's much to think about.
Sometimes the most profound mysteries have simple answers. If everyone will kindly read this patiently with an open mind, maybe this great mystery will become clear. It is truly a mystery, but it is one with an answer.

I start off with the basic attributes of God as He reveals to mankind from the Bible.
He is love, gracious, righteous and just. There are others, but these are some primary attributes.

As beings with free will, we complicate things.
Multiply that and complication is an understatement.
Here's a relatable example.

Dad loves his boy Johnny.
Dad buys John a car.
He tells him the rules. Teaches John how to properly use it and enjoy it responsibly.
John does as he's told for a year or two.
After a while, John becomes independent and wants to do things his way, not Dads way.
John takes risks.....pushes the envelope.
He acts like he's invincible and violates most of the safety rules.
John takes risks, not just by himself, but with his girlfriend and buddies.
Sadly, he wraps the car around a tree.
Girlfriend dies.....her parents suffer.
Same with the other boys, except one who is permanently disabled....John.

John says, " I'm sorry. I promise to never do it again." In his tearful apology to the girlfriends parents, little brother, and sis.
Then he goes to the families of the dead buddies.
He asks, " How can I make it up to you? I am so so sorry." "Can I work off my debt to you? Can I reform and make myself better?? Will that make everything alright?"

"John then goes to Dad and says, now I'm ready to follow your rules. I won't mess up again. Promise. "

Guess what?

No amount of excuses or apologies can make John right with anyone who died, anyone who suffered, not even his heartbroken dad.

Can John blame his Dad for not preparing him to drive safely?
Can he rightfully blame his dad for giving him the keys to the car and freedom to use it?
Can John blame his dad for all of the suffering that John caused to his friends and their families?

I'm not trying to be unkind. We all have room to learn something new, especially me. First thing tomorrow morning, that I plan to do, is open the Bible and ask my Dad to help me to understand things that I need to learn and know better.
I'm not good, but He is. I couldn't blame Him or anyone else for my behavior. I couldn't do anything to make up for the wrong things I've done. No apologies....no reformation....no good works can make up for the bad.
The Bible reveals this about all of us.

He took me in like a bad kid off of the street that hurt myself and others.
He adopted me into His family. It wasn't because I was like the pick of the litter. No. I had nothing going for me that He would want me. He's not impressed with my "good deeds".
"It's not by deeds of righteousness which we have done..." Titus 3:5

The one and ONLY thing that would make things right.
That is His FORGIVENESS.
I needed that as the kid named Johnny did. Were there still consequences for breaking the rules? Of course.
But keep in mind that Johnny, me, anyone else can't make up for our wrong doings.
The Good Lord saved everyone's life here at one point or another. He gave us another chance to receive His forgiveness. Maybe that's what you need too?
If that's the case, below I will post a video that will fill in the details needed for that forgiveness from God. I'm available for Q&A too.

Don't end this great thread on this solemn post.
I'm just trying to do someone/anyone a favor by tackling a good question.

Dad didnt cut Johnnie's brake lines,
but a God purposely put the craftiest
creature in the garden to ensure
Adam and Eve would take the bait.

Another far less capable creature may have
given them a better chance, but God evidently
wanted the naive couple to crash and burn.

Was Adam and Lilith originally wasn't it? Lilith wouldn't take Adam's schit and got converted I thought.

The bible doesn't describe a benevolent God.

Lilith departed the garden of her own free will,
even the angels God sent to retrieve her had
no luck in convincing her to return...
Eve wanted to return but God placed a cherubim
with sword to prevent her re-entry.

There was no christian invention burning hell punishment at the time all this happened.
Hell was still a peaceful sleep state place
where the dead knew of nothing.

they are the 2 things that cause most of the problems on earth. both have caused many wars.