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According to who...? You...!
You evidently think that ‘you’ get to decide what these discussions are all about...! Believers are called “believers” for a reason.

Dude, on every single one of these threads regarding believers, you are drawn to them like a moth to a flame, to show unequivocally that you absolutely can’t stand it that believers choose to believe in something that you don’t want them to believe in. Despite your attempts to hide behind “true and factual” on a believers thread.

Says who?

It's not according to me or according to you.

The physical world does not care what I believe or you believe.

The world and the Universe existed long before you or me and our beliefs about it. It is what it is regardless of our beliefs about it.

Darn. I wish the world cared. Not.

Well, i almost did, but i didnt.

According to basic logic and reason. Have you got any evidence that I have lied? No? Be a man and apologise for making false accusation.

Keep in mind what your own book says about bearing false witness...lest you yourself are judged. Better yet, try to grow up, stop being a child and learn to engage in impersonal discussion.

In other words, stick to the subject without making petulant remarks about your opponents.

What you miss is, if there was evidence, otherwise unbelieving people like you would be getting in Heaven and screwing Heaven up.

There is not supposed to be any evidence. HE didnt want any evidence. HE fixed it that way so people like you could say, He shoulda gave us evidence.

When Wabi or jaguartx, or anyone else, starts a ‘believers’ thread...then THAT’S what it’s about...BELIEVERS, and their perspectives on things. It’s not about “the physical world” or “basic logic and reason” or anything else...UNLESS it’s from a believers perspective. It’s an open forum, and anyone can participate on any of em’. But, a ‘believers’ thread is basically and fundamentally about BELIEVERS, and their perspectives on the subject the OP included. You put forth a lot of effort to assert that it’s ‘not’ about that...when it clearly is.

It seems that you don't care that you missed the point. Or didn't you understand what I said?

Does the planet change shape because some folks happen to believe in a flat earth?

Where in title does it say that this is a believers only thread?

You speak on behalf of God?

laffin’ and smh

So God does not exist and the founders didn't rely on God for divine wisdom on setting up our nation and those that sailed over on the Mayflower were not honest to goodness Bible believing people?

How come you don’t EVER start a “basic logic and reason” thread, or a “physical world” thread, or a “evidence where it should be found” thread...? Because...those threads would NOT give you an opportunity to show that you can’t stand it that believers choose to believe in something that ‘you’ don’t want them to believe in...!

Are members who don't believe banned from commenting? Your objection is false. This has nothing to do with me or what I 'want others to believe.'

I don't care what anyone believes, I am simply questioning the validity of beliefs...be they the beliefs of Hinduism, Islam, Christianity, ideology or politics.

The Greeks believed in the Gods of Olympus, they also built cities, developed a culture, philosophy, rational inquiry, etc. Does that mean the Gods of Olympus were real?

still laffin’ and smh
It has *everything* to do with the clear fact that you can’t stand it that believers choose to believe in something that ‘you’ don’t want them to believe in. You show ‘that’ clearly in every single thread along these lines.Yes you do. You show up in every single thread that Wabi, jaguartx, or any other believer starts...and you show exactly and clearly that you have a BIG problem with believers being believers. Period. Despite your tactic of asserting that it’s about “the physical world” or “basic logic and reason” or “questioning the validity of beliefs” or “true and factual” or “evidence where it should be found”, etc. ad nauseam.

Translation = “Because...on those threads, I would NOT be given an opportunity to show that I can’t stand it that believers choose to believe in something that ‘I’ don’t want them to believe in.”

Antlers is going into his cut and paste subterfuge meltdown mode again

Aren’t you tired of gettin’ slapped around here like you *always* do...?