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2 Peter (3:16)

“........There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.”


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Jesus Himself said that He WAS the Messiah. I believe HIM. The Samaritan woman said, “I know that Messiah (called Christ) is coming. When He comes, He will explain everything to us.” Jesus responded to her, “I who speak to you am He.”
Jesus predicted His own death and resurrection, and pulled it off...! I’m gonna go with what HE says.


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Anyone who doesnt agree this country has taken a heck of a downturn since God was kicked out of our schools is deaf and dumb or a liar.
Im talking from kids on drugs to supporting socialism to unwed, teenage pregancy to anti 1 and 2 A.
If it were not a successful tool to help destroy a country, the communist playbook wouldnt employ it and the communists wouldnt be anti Christian.

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Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

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I'll try it this way.

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Originally Posted by wabigoon
I'll try it this way.

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Glad that you guys are getting back on topic.

Wabigoon,

Great verse!

We should ALL ask ourselves, who is responsible for training up our children in the way they should go?
Here's a brief example that represents the past generation of nearly 50 years.

Unfaithful marriages...

Unfaithful parenting...

Parents turn children over to the state run skuul system.

Children conform to the image of their state rather than their Creator Jesus Christ.

Repeat.....

Karl Marx was a reprobate that hated God before he left the surface of this planet for a permanent vacation in a VERY WARM climate. Not only schools, but many churches have followed suit in his philosophies. How many pastors and denominations are preaching the small amount of truth found in this post?


"As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."
Colossians 2:6-8

From the beginning of the state run educational system, it was set up according to the Prussian model for the purpose of loyalty and obedience to the Godless state. Most of what is taught in socialist studies, biology, etc., to your children is against God's revealed truth. The subjects are taught mostly by strangers who care less about your values than strangers on a forum.
The children's peers become their friends, who influence them with the same evils that their peers and parents believe and are deceived by.

The parents have chosen the state as their king, and their god when Jesus Christ the Almighty King was our God.

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The early Christians met in the catacombs in secret, in fear for their lives.

In spite of all the precutation, the Faith grew. We have it so easy.

Keep your eye on the Prize.


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
The early Christians met in the catacombs in secret, in fear for their lives.

In spite of all the precutation, the Faith grew. We have it so easy.

Keep your eye on the Prize.


Yep. It wont be long now. Jesus said He'd be back in 2000 years and we know approximately when He was birthed on earth as we know when King Herrod was in office.

It ought to be between now and 2028 if He was referring as to when He came to earth first.


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The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

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Originally Posted by wabigoon
The early Christians met in the catacombs in secret, in fear for their lives.
In spite of all the persecution, the Faith grew. We have it so easy.
I agree. Although alleged persecution among some Christians nowadays in this country seems to have an allure to it. In other parts of the world, Christians ‘do’ face real persecution. In North Korea and many Muslim-governed countries, Christians risk imprisonment and death for their faith. But for most of this country’s history, Christians haven’t been persecuted...at least not in comparison to early believers, or even what Christians in other parts of the world face today.
That’s not to say there aren’t incidents of discrimination and even hatred towards Christianity nowadays in the United States. But Christians are pretty well-protected and more often accommodated here in America nowadays than actively harmed.


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Jaguartx where are you getting this timeline for Christ's return? I don't comprehend everything, but I'm pretty well read when it comes to the Bible. Just last night is was reading in Luke & Jesus said he'd come in an hour you'd think not.


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For, it's not important when He returns. HE LIVES! Now!


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Exactly Wabigoon, no worries.


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This will irritate some but nobody kicked God out of school, he was never there. Had he been his follower's if true believer's, would not have allowed that to happen. Sad that there are so many true believer's but so many more border line believer's. I am not a believer but I know a lot of people that are. And those people are incensed it has happened but they are a minority. Just because someone claims to be a Christian does not mean they are! And when push came to shove, they were no where to be found or were sitting home babbling about how bad it was and did nothing to stop it except pray to a God that never did it in the first place, he had you do it!

Something I do believe is this country was created on the idea of God. I do believe that those people believing in it and living their lives that way made this country what it was. I say was because today we are radically changing and most Christians are sitting around saying pray for a difference from God! That does not work! I watched the movie about Noah taking the Jew's away from whoever those people were, They came to a place where these bad people were going to kill them and they wanted God to come and save them. He didn't. Instead they were left to fight for themselves. But then when it was over, they gave all credit to God rather than themselves. I suspect it was their belief that help was coming that kept them going and not a thing wrong with that but, God does not come down and fix anything, rather if he is there he leaves it for you to decide what course to take and sit back and do nothing is not one of them That get's you killed!

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God does whatever He wants to.


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I think a lotta people, ‘maybe’ like jaguartx for example, are just ready for something other than what this life has become. It is hard. Maybe harder nowadays, and in different ways, than it has been in the past.
For so many people, the way we live...the way life is nowadays...isn’t suitable for the soul to be happy anymore. Jesus is with those who follow Him. His followers need not fear anything or anyone...because they have been invited to submit themselves and surrender their fears to a God who loves them, who is with them, who’s not surprised by anything that’s happening to them, and will walk with them through it.


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
God does whatever He wants to.


Well then, I guess he didn't want to be in school!

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He leaves that up to us, we are free moral agents.


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
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Now that is pretty good! I think an old saying I recall was, "God help's those that help's themselves". Ya want him back in school? Put him there!

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Originally Posted by DonFischer
This will irritate some, but nobody kicked God out of school, he was never there.
Believer or not, I’m glad you spoke up. Your opinion and thoughts on this matter seem honest and non-agenda driven. If God is omnipresent, then He’s everywhere...even schools. It might be a situation where He is simply given no credence there anymore.


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