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Rather than beliefs, the name of the game is sorting fact from fiction....that which can stand all questioning and remain true regardless of our beliefs.

Then again, since they ‘do’ spend so much time and effort and emotional energy on a subject that they don’t even believe in (God in this case), maybe they ‘are’ just attacks...under the false pretenses of “questioning” and “sorting fact from fiction.”

It's human nature to try and understand how things work - that's why people invented religion, but it's nothing more than what people have collectively made up. It's weird to see people still believe and religion and is dangerous because of the bigotry, violence, misappropriation of blame and hatred that it creates. It's astounding that believers can't answer simple logical questions that they should not otherwise be afraid of answering and become so threatened by it.

But like they say, science doesn't know everything, religion doesn't know anything.

Uhhm...no. It's just a matter of questioning beliefs. Everyone should do it, Muslims, Christians, Jews, Politicians.....

Good point DBT, God surely wouldn't mind, and the world would have been spared a lot of misery if folks would have just said "wait a minute, Jesus would never support this".

"I believe, help my unbelief".

Huh?

I think that’s a pretty poignant verse there Wabi. A lotta believers share that sentiment. Submitting what faith we ‘do’ have, to God, alongside our doubts. He wants all of what we ‘do’ have. And He’ll help strengthen what we don’t have.

Hastings, I heard that somewhere. [img]https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1...22x11_white_wash_grande.png?v=1463376984[/img]

Who is this THEY you refer to? Its not the they I listen to, but you have your fun.

It just strikes me that those made in His image may have a reason for contemplating things like where we are from and where we are going and going go the moon and whay is our reason for being which creatures like dogs and cats dont do.

I believe. In the old book and in John the Baptist and Jesus. My unbelief only applies when there seems to be an obvious omission or an editing in favor of the powers that held title to "Christianity" for a thousand years. Also when an assumed apostle writes things that do not jive with Jesus' teachings and advises slaves to obey their masters and also stated that the secular government was to be obeyed as an agent of God. Religion has always been used to preserve the social strata so it is not surprising that Jesus was hijacked for that very purpose. But praise the Lord, enough of his teaching survived that will allow an open mind to weed out the BS that was inserted.

The "unbelief", comes in when one has doubts about any part of Faith. That's how I understand it.

Hey, at least we get to have Bibles, and read em’ for ourselves, and interpret what they say for ourselves. Before the Protestant Reformation, the Church didn’t allow the common man to have Bibles, and having one was punishable by death. The Bible was ‘interpreted to’ the common man by those in power. There are lots of different opinions among all believers. There are different theological beliefs, and different interpretations of what the Bible says among all believers. We have the personal freedom to have varying interpretations on theological issues. When ya’ get right down to it, we are all individual denominations unto ourselves. But the Spirit of God dwells in ‘all’ believers.

Yep. Some churches now days dont remotely follow what the Bible HE gave as our book of instruction says.

Conviction or lack of conviction is a process that begins with the presentation of a body of information, in this case the bible....but it can be anything, science, Politics, ideology....

i do not read music well. I was not good playing piano, nor trumpet. I fiddled with a fiddle when I was 37.

I do not have anywhere perfect pitch. I do however know when a bell rings true. The Message of Lord God Jesus ring so true.

Politicians....especially the Marxist one's.....

Any part?

Young earth?

A literal Garden of Eden?

How about a literal The Firmament?

The Modern Flat Earth movement is motivated by such Christians who subscribe to the above statement.

Wabi, have you decided to become a Flat Earther because it's supported by scripture?

Nice picture, but it's not evidence for the truth of the proposition.