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Trump has a problem that isn’t easily resolved. The levers of this government are so intertwined with a permanent faceless bureaucracy that you really need someone familiar with the whole thing to know where they are and how to operate them. But anyone who knows all that, is likely a part of them and part of the problem.
Hard to be an outsider and get anything done in a system like Washington.
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Ya reckon those globalist/neocons are actually the "useful idiots" of the swamp, the military industrial complex?
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Unreal. And we all thought Mad Dog was great. why would you think a psycho like mad dog was great when he said...it is fun shooting bad guys. yeah in Panama or Granada. I would like to put him in a trench around Stalingrad at 35 below with no resupply for a few weeks and see how much fun he was having. never fought in a real war
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Most over rated general officer since Powell. AND he never married....... are you saying he's a puffer? mad gog pushed the homosexual agenda in the military
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I though highly of our VP Pence, not sure what to think now. What's Pence got to do with it? Not being argumentative, just asking. Additionally, Bob Woodward points to Vice President Mike Pence as the whisperer who made sure President Trump blindly nominated officials who could facilitate his removal. Granted it could be false or fake. But .... pence is a deep state POS evan-genital who looks fake not even human. looks like a senior Ken doll for old sea hags
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The BIG question still remains, What doesn’t the Military Brass and the Military Industrial Complex have in store for President Trump in the coming weeks and months. He is costing them Billions and they can’t allow that.
It’s why McCain sabotaged Trump with his participation in the Steel Dossier and why Graham, Bolton, Mattis, Kelly, Esper Vindman, and Pence are involved in the coup to stop Trump.
Remember, when all the Deep State enemies of Trump(Hillary, Obama, Chaney, Biden)got envelopes at the Bush funeral, Pence got one as well.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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Generals don't usually do well in civilian government positions
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Seems we're finding out just how deep and big the "swamp" actually is....
Lotta Swampers in sheep's clothes...
Takes time to ferret them out...
Second term should be better in that regard.
And, I wouldn't be too quick to throw Pence under the bus. IMO, he's an asset.
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So out of all the lying main stream media talking heads, you guys choose to believe Bob effing Woodward? He’s hawking a book for cripe’s sake!
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So out of all the lying main stream media talking heads, you guys choose to believe Bob effing Woodward? He’s hawking a book for cripe’s sake! Exactly!
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Most over rated general officer since Powell. AND he never married....... Wow, I did not know that. I mean really who can go their whole life with out a woman.
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So out of all the lying main stream media talking heads, you guys choose to believe Bob effing Woodward? He’s hawking a book for cripe’s sake! Exactly! The most rational comment on the thread. mike r
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If I was Trump, I wouldn't have given Woodward the time of day, must less all those hours of taped interviews. After all his lib leanings and hit jobs, why go there?
On the other hand, all this "light" on swamp stuff may not all be bad.
Still, I wouldn't have honored that scum bag with anything.
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Generals don't usually do well in civilian government positions Ike handled it quite well!
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So out of all the lying main stream media talking heads, you guys choose to believe Bob effing Woodward? He’s hawking a book for cripe’s sake! Been thinking the same thing the past couple days of all these "woodward says" threads!
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I have yet to see Mattis publicly deny this accusation. This is sedition.
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Mattis never came close to the hype. Then he forgot who he worked for.
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So out of all the lying main stream media talking heads, you guys choose to believe Bob effing Woodward? He’s hawking a book for cripe’s sake! Exactly! The most rational comment on the thread. mike r So out of all the lying main stream media talking heads, you guys choose to believe Bob effing Woodward? He’s hawking a book for cripe’s sake! Been thinking the same thing the past couple days of all these "woodward says" threads! Did you guy read the entire article linked in the OP, if you had you have found that there is a hell of a lot more on Mattis and the Military coup against the Commander in Chief, besides the Woodard article. Check it out.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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Unreal. And we all thought Mad Dog was great. I was fooled as well. Yep. The Devil Dog was just a Devil.
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So out of all the lying main stream media talking heads, you guys choose to believe Bob effing Woodward? He’s hawking a book for cripe’s sake! Exactly! The most rational comment on the thread. mike r You three should really read something before you show your asses like that. You can find Mattis' own public statements. This isn't about Bob Woodward. It's about a seditious military officer.
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