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I blame trump because he lied to the public, and did not give the public the full picture of the firestorm that

only he knew was coming. Instead at every turn he down played the danger when only he knew it was 5 times or

more dangerous than anyone else. He told no one as far as we know. He just went on and keep lying to the public.

Which cause thousands of Republicans and Democrats to loose there lives.


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Northdumb and DickTuck what a pair of Mensa’s...

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Originally Posted by GunTruck50


I blame trump because he lied to the public, and did not give the public the full picture of the firestorm that

only he knew was coming. Instead at every turn he down played the danger when only he knew it was 5 times or

more dangerous than anyone else. He told no one as far as we know. He just went on and keep lying to the public.

Which cause thousands of Republicans and Democrats to loose there lives.



pathetic . And Sweden didnt lockdown, no masks, open schools and businesses and low covid deaths

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Originally Posted by GunTruck50


I,m sorry the medical people world wide disagree with you. I,m no expert but they are so I believe them and think you are wrong.

You are trying to swim up stream against medical science. I,ll go with medical science.



Medical science says a man is a man and a woman is a woman, but Dems believe otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Northman
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I suggest you look at a excess death chart... tens of thousands of people died, that should not have died.


"That man didn't die of a gunshot your honor... he had cancer"...


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.............Your above comment shows how dumb and stupid you really are along with a bunch of ignorance mixed in. Using a gunshot and cancer as a comparison is intellectually dishonest and is a lie........You are right. Tens of thousands of people died that should not have died.....Therefore BLAME CHINA (the origin of covid) and THEIR FAILURE to control the disease. They deliberately LIED to the world, deceived the world, failed to turn over their info, rejected entry of US doctors and other medical personnel
into China, did NOT restrict any travel from China to the rest of the world and they covered up the truth.......BUT NO! YOU as a Trump hating and intellectually dishonest clown that you are, MUST BLAME TRUMP.....And btw dummy.....ROOT causes of death is what goes on autopsy reports as well.



Yes, china did all that.

And Trump knew in January that Covid was way way worse then the normal flu... very dangerous and deadly.
5x more deadly then the regular flu and airborne.

But for several weeks he downplayed everything..

Dereliction of duty...


And still there are right-wingers that refuse to wear a mask.. even it can help those with underlying conditions as you said.




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..............You are a damned LIAR!.... NO! Trump DID NOT KNOW it was worse than a normal flu! WHY? Because in January IDIOT, there was not enough solid evidence to make that determination. In fact you IDIOT and LIAR, there was not one medical person or so-called expert who came forward within the month of January INCLUDING anyone from Trump's task force who announced that covid19 was 6X more deadly than the flu and airborne....GOTCHA AZZ HOLE!.....Your sponge brain is AGAIN soaking up LYING demCRAP talking points.......Also you damned HYPOCRITE, it was your party namely the demCRAPs including PIGlosi, who all ON VIDEO TAPE played down the virus during the months of Jan, Feb and well into March, saying to go about our lives, no need for masks and nothing to fear from covid 19......Forgot all about that? Right HYPOCRITE?..................Checkmate JELL-OOOOOO, southman or whoever......LIAR!


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If the danger were REAL, 80 year-old Nancy Pelosi would not have been out getting her hair done, without a mask.

Nancy showed us all, that the constant MSM fearmongering is nothing but political theater.

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If the danger were REAL, 80 year-old Nancy Pelosi would not have been out getting her hair done, without a mask.

Nancy showed us all, that the constant MSM fearmongering is nothing but political theater.




If that incident didnt show what a scam this has been I don't know what will. Without the useful uneducated idiots like the op( Jeff) this thing would have been over months ago. But commies always need their useful idiots to succeed and destroy America

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Originally Posted by GunTruck50


I blame trump because he lied to the public, and did not give the public the full picture of the firestorm that

only he knew was coming. Instead at every turn he down played the danger when only he knew it was 5 times or

more dangerous than anyone else. He told no one as far as we know. He just went on and keep lying to the public.

Which cause thousands of Republicans and Democrats to loose there lives.

........You lie again through them flappy ass gums of yours....Trump had no way to determine ANY future firestorm in January. Nor did any of the medical experts....GINT-SCHITS! You are such a lying pathetic fool and hypocrite.....You are a foolish lap dog for the LYING media.......Waggin yer tail rapidly back and forth waiting for the next story that comes out with the fantasy of hoping that somehow it will destroy Trump.....


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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
If the danger were REAL, 80 year-old Nancy Pelosi would not have been out getting her hair done, without a mask.

Nancy showed us all, that the constant MSM fearmongering is nothing but political theater.


Pretty well sums everything thing up in one tidy lil' package.


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Originally Posted by GunTruck50


I blame trump because he lied to the public, and did not give the public the full picture of the firestorm that

only he knew was coming. Instead at every turn he down played the danger when only he knew it was 5 times or

more dangerous than anyone else. He told no one as far as we know. He just went on and keep lying to the public.

Which cause thousands of Republicans and Democrats to loose there lives.



pathetic . And Sweden didnt lockdown, no masks, open schools and businesses and low covid deaths
....YEP! Liberal HACKS and FOOLS like "GARBAGEtruckminus50IQ never seem to research the facts. Here he uses Sweden as a comparison and yet they never locked down, did not wear masks, and kept schools and businesses open.....LOL...LOL.....The boomerang should be getting to him right about now.....LOL


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You are a damned LIAR!.... NO! Trump DID NOT KNOW it was worse than a normal flu! WHY? Because in January IDIOT, there was not enough solid evidence to make that determination. In fact you IDIOT and LIAR, there was not one medical person or so-called expert who came forward within the month of January INCLUDING anyone from Trump's task force who announced that covid19 was 6X more deadly than the flu and airborne....GOTCHA AZZ HOLE!.....Your sponge brain is AGAIN soaking up LYING demCRAP talking points.......Also you damned HYPOCRITE, it was your party namely the demCRAPs including PIGlosi, who all ON VIDEO TAPE played down the virus during the months of Jan, Feb and well into March, saying to go about our lives, no need for masks and nothing to fear from covid 19......Forgot all about that? Right HYPOCRITE?..................Checkmate JELL-OOOOOO, southman or whoever......LIAR!



Trump on Feb 5:
"It goes through air, Bob. That’s always tougher than the touch. You know, the touch, you don’t have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that’s how it’s passed. … And so, that’s a very tricky one. That’s a very delicate one. It’s also more deadly than your—you know, your, even your strenuous flus. You know, people don’t realize, we lose 25,000, 30,000 people a year here. Who would ever think that, right? Pretty amazing. And then I say, well, is that the same thing? This is more deadly. This is 5 per—you know, this is 5 percent versus 1 percent and less than 1 percent. You know? So, this is deadly stuff."

So.. he believed it would be 5% vs 1% for the flu.
Thats five times larger.
30.000 flu x 5 = 150.000

During a press conference on Feb. 26, for instance, Trump encouraged the public to “view this the same as the flu” and to “treat this like you treat the flu.”*
Less than three weeks earlier, he told Woodward the disease was “more deadly than even your strenuous flus.”

But he didn't warn anybody.. publicly and by tweets everything was under control.


Five days after his Fox News interview, on March 9, Trump again sent out a tweet comparing COVID-19 to the common flu.

Trump on March 19:
After he had acknowledged privately the threat of the virus but played it down publicly, Trump told the journalist that “I wanted to always play it down, I still like playing it down, because I don’t want to create a panic.”




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Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
If the danger were REAL, 80 year-old Nancy Pelosi would not have been out getting her hair done, without a mask.

Nancy showed us all, that the constant MSM fearmongering is nothing but political theater.


Pretty well sums everything thing up in one tidy lil' package.



And think about it, how many of those tired old senators and representatives have died of Covid? I haven't heard of a single one. You would think they are among the very vulnerable.

Maybe they have all been given plasma antibody therapy already?

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It's all a big political dirty trick. Create fear, crash the economy, install Biden.

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Originally Posted by Northman
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You are a damned LIAR!.... NO! Trump DID NOT KNOW it was worse than a normal flu! WHY? Because in January IDIOT, there was not enough solid evidence to make that determination. In fact you IDIOT and LIAR, there was not one medical person or so-called expert who came forward within the month of January INCLUDING anyone from Trump's task force who announced that covid19 was 6X more deadly than the flu and airborne....GOTCHA AZZ HOLE!.....Your sponge brain is AGAIN soaking up LYING demCRAP talking points.......Also you damned HYPOCRITE, it was your party namely the demCRAPs including PIGlosi, who all ON VIDEO TAPE played down the virus during the months of Jan, Feb and well into March, saying to go about our lives, no need for masks and nothing to fear from covid 19......Forgot all about that? Right HYPOCRITE?..................Checkmate JELL-OOOOOO, southman or whoever......LIAR!



Trump on Feb 5:
"It goes through air, Bob. That’s always tougher than the touch. You know, the touch, you don’t have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that’s how it’s passed. … And so, that’s a very tricky one. That’s a very delicate one. It’s also more deadly than your—you know, your, even your strenuous flus. You know, people don’t realize, we lose 25,000, 30,000 people a year here. Who would ever think that, right? Pretty amazing. And then I say, well, is that the same thing? This is more deadly. This is 5 per—you know, this is 5 percent versus 1 percent and less than 1 percent. You know? So, this is deadly stuff."

So.. he believed it would be 5% vs 1% for the flu.
Thats five times larger.
30.000 flu x 5 = 150.000

During a press conference on Feb. 26, for instance, Trump encouraged the public to “view this the same as the flu” and to “treat this like you treat the flu.”*
Less than three weeks earlier, he told Woodward the disease was “more deadly than even your strenuous flus.”

But he didn't warn anybody.. publicly and by tweets everything was under control.


Five days after his Fox News interview, on March 9, Trump again sent out a tweet comparing COVID-19 to the common flu.

Trump on March 19:
After he had acknowledged privately the threat of the virus but played it down publicly, Trump told the journalist that “I wanted to always play it down, I still like playing it down, because I don’t want to create a panic.”




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..........You present nothing more than transcripts, all subject to interpretation....Look CLOWN.......In late January 10 days AFTER the first case in the US hit Wash state, Trump bans all travel to and from China. A week later he bans all travel to and from Europe. Then he forms the task force to include bringing in all medical resources possible from the private sector. Cuts red govt tape to find a vaccine and produce PPE and therapeutics. Invokes the military and private sector for distribution. Increases testings into the millions and on and on.......SCIENTIFICALLY, there is absolutely NO DAMNED way that had Trump WARNED the nation as you would have liked him to do, that doing so could have prevented any more deaths......You are looking at what he says or did not say rather than his actions.......Again! You are nothing more than a mouthpiece and lap doggie for the lying news media.....You honestly believe that had Trump announced in late Jan that this virus was 5x more deadly that it would have changed a damned thing?...... The entire demCRAP party during Jan, Feb and in early March were saying, "GO ABOUT YOUR LIVES",,, "NO NEED FOR MASKS",,,, "Trump is USING THE VIRUS for FEAR MONGERING",,,, "DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THE VIRUS"...ALL ON VIDEO TAPE!..............You are one pathetic pile of HYPOCRITICAL crap NORTHMAN.


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Originally Posted by Northman
Cant sway this Right wing Echo chamber forum...

But, normal people, just a tad less to the Right will see and hear President Trump words, that he knew it was far far far more dangerous then the normal Flue, but he kept on telling people to gather at his rallies, dont wear masks, and this would blow over soon for MONTHS.


Had he gone out 1 week after he spoke to this reporter and said to keep distance to each other, try to wear masks if you can and informed correctly about the dangers, it would be OK.
Had he gone out 2 weeks after he spoke to this reporter and said to keep distance to each other, try to wear masks if you can and informed correctly about the dangers, it would be OK.
Had he gone out 3 weeks after he spoke to this reporter and said to keep distance to each other, try to wear masks if you can and informed correctly about the dangers, it would be OK.
Had he gone out 4 weeks after he spoke to this reporter and said to keep distance to each other, try to wear masks if you can and informed correctly about the dangers, it would be OK.
Had he gone out 5 weeks after he spoke to this reporter and said to keep distance to each other, try to wear masks if you can and informed correctly about the dangers, it would be OK.
Had he gone out 6 weeks after he spoke to this reporter and said to keep distance to each other, try to wear masks if you can and informed correctly about the dangers, it would be OK.
Had he gone out 7 weeks after he spoke to this reporter and said to keep distance to each other, try to wear masks if you can and informed correctly about the dangers, it would be OK.


He didn't... and as a result tens of thousands of Hard core Republicans voters who believed him died needlessly.



The US could most likely have kept most business going and not shut down the Economy, if Trump just would tell the truth.. instead he choose to keep lying to the American People.
Like we all now know he did.



But Obama and Hillary bad... Trump chosen by Jesus.



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So of the two you will be voting for Trump since he was weeks ahead of the Democrats on shutting things down including travel.

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Cant sway this Right wing Echo chamber forum...

But, normal people, just a tad less to the Right will see and hear President Trump words, that he knew it was far far far more dangerous then the normal Flue, but he kept on telling people to gather at his rallies, dont wear masks, and this would blow over soon for MONTHS.


Had he gone out 1 week after he spoke to this reporter and said to keep distance to each other, try to wear masks if you can and informed correctly about the dangers, it would be OK.
Had he gone out 2 weeks after he spoke to this reporter and said to keep distance to each other, try to wear masks if you can and informed correctly about the dangers, it would be OK.
Had he gone out 3 weeks after he spoke to this reporter and said to keep distance to each other, try to wear masks if you can and informed correctly about the dangers, it would be OK.
Had he gone out 4 weeks after he spoke to this reporter and said to keep distance to each other, try to wear masks if you can and informed correctly about the dangers, it would be OK.
Had he gone out 5 weeks after he spoke to this reporter and said to keep distance to each other, try to wear masks if you can and informed correctly about the dangers, it would be OK.
Had he gone out 6 weeks after he spoke to this reporter and said to keep distance to each other, try to wear masks if you can and informed correctly about the dangers, it would be OK.
Had he gone out 7 weeks after he spoke to this reporter and said to keep distance to each other, try to wear masks if you can and informed correctly about the dangers, it would be OK.


He didn't... and as a result tens of thousands of Hard core Republicans voters who believed him died needlessly.



The US could most likely have kept most business going and not shut down the Economy, if Trump just would tell the truth.. instead he choose to keep lying to the American People.
Like we all now know he did.



But Obama and Hillary bad... Trump chosen by Jesus.



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So of the two you will be voting for Trump since he was weeks ahead of the Democrats on shutting things down including travel.
................................Ooooooooh yeah.......Excellent observation


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Originally Posted by GunTruck50


I blame trump because he lied to the public, and did not give the public the full picture of the firestorm that

only he knew was coming. Instead at every turn he down played the danger when only he knew it was 5 times or

more dangerous than anyone else. He told no one as far as we know. He just went on and keep lying to the public.

Which cause thousands of Republicans and Democrats to loose there lives.



It isn't anywhere near 5 times more deadly. In fact people with no political bent say it is less deadly than the flu. These are doctors and researchers who have not depended on modeling, but actual cases. What is interesting and may have already been pointed out is Woodward had this info since Feb or March and sat on it to sell a book just before the election to undermine Trump. He had info that maybe could have saved people and he sat on it just to try and get Biden a win. Who is the worst in this case, Trump, the guy who didn't want to set off a panic, but got medical supplies to everyone who needed it (mainly democrat run places that got rid of their needed supplies and had the worse outcomes) or Woodward who held onto pertinent info that could save people but did it for money and power?

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.......You present nothing more than transcripts, all subject to interpretation....Look CLOWN.......In late January 10 days AFTER the first case in the US hit Wash state, Trump bans all travel to and from China. A week later he bans all travel to and from Europe. Then he forms the task force to include bringing in all medical resources possible from the private sector. Cuts red govt tape to find a vaccine and produce PPE and therapeutics. Invokes the military and private sector for distribution. Increases testings into the millions and on and on.......SCIENTIFICALLY, there is absolutely NO DAMNED way that had Trump WARNED the nation as you would have liked him to do, that doing so could have prevented any more deaths......You are looking at what he says or did not say rather than his actions.......Again! You are nothing more than a mouthpiece and lap doggie for the lying news media.....You honestly believe that had Trump announced in late Jan that this virus was 5x more deadly that it would have changed a damned thing?...... The entire demCRAP party during Jan, Feb and in early March were saying, "GO ABOUT YOUR LIVES",,, "NO NEED FOR MASKS",,,, "Trump is USING THE VIRUS for FEAR MONGERING",,,, "DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THE VIRUS"...ALL ON VIDEO TAPE!..............You are one pathetic pile of HYPOCRITICAL crap NORTHMAN.



Trump was specifically briefed on Jan 28 how severe this was.
On Jan 31 he banned air travel to China, because of concerns it would spread to the US.Which he was told on Jan 23 and 28.

On Feb 5 he told the reporter how bad this was.
While playing it down to the general public for multiple weeks!!
And encouraging people to come to his rallies.. and still do.


Now.. regarding "transcripts"... I heard it in his own voice..
Most news channels have run it. Hope you know that.
Trump allowed the reporter to record him for his book..





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.......You present nothing more than transcripts, all subject to interpretation....Look CLOWN.......In late January 10 days AFTER the first case in the US hit Wash state, Trump bans all travel to and from China. A week later he bans all travel to and from Europe. Then he forms the task force to include bringing in all medical resources possible from the private sector. Cuts red govt tape to find a vaccine and produce PPE and therapeutics. Invokes the military and private sector for distribution. Increases testings into the millions and on and on.......SCIENTIFICALLY, there is absolutely NO DAMNED way that had Trump WARNED the nation as you would have liked him to do, that doing so could have prevented any more deaths......You are looking at what he says or did not say rather than his actions.......Again! You are nothing more than a mouthpiece and lap doggie for the lying news media.....You honestly believe that had Trump announced in late Jan that this virus was 5x more deadly that it would have changed a damned thing?...... The entire demCRAP party during Jan, Feb and in early March were saying, "GO ABOUT YOUR LIVES",,, "NO NEED FOR MASKS",,,, "Trump is USING THE VIRUS for FEAR MONGERING",,,, "DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THE VIRUS"...ALL ON VIDEO TAPE!..............You are one pathetic pile of HYPOCRITICAL crap NORTHMAN.



Trump was specifically briefed on Jan 28 how severe this was.

On Feb 5 he told the reporter how bad this was.
While playing it down to the general public for multiple weeks!!
While encouraging people to come to his rallies.. and still do.


Now.. regarding "transcripts"... I heard it in his own voice..
Most news channels have run it. Hope you know that.
Trump allowed the reporter to record him for his book..





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Fauci backs up Trump on this. Where do you stand with him?

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