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What you mistake for insecurity is in fact a bedrock understanding of the nature of the people in question, and their unerring relationship with the world around them.

Interesting point. The Septuagint is, I believe, older than any copies of Hebrew Scriptures extant in the world today.

you stated KJV didn't use the Septuagint for
translation, so where did they get the word
'virgin' from for Isaiah 7:14..?

(AKJV) Isaiah 7:14
"Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign;
Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son,
and shall call his name Immanuel."

I don’t know. But I’ll take the word of some of the greatest scholars ever produced in the English world over some internet Rabbi.

You strike me as the type who reads a book or two and is suddenly afire with a thought...until you read another and go down another rabbit trail.

You are an attorney who listened to Rabbi then
you falsely claimed the Rabbi lied by saying KJV
was translated from Septuagint.

Rabbi said no such thing, so who's the liar?

Ooh, someone on the internet called me a liar. I’ll wait for you rhapsodic soliloquies on Jordan Peterson.

Attorneys fabricate narratives for a living
don't they?

And you hire your own experts to agree
with your narrative?

Why do you feel the need to make false claim
about what the Rabbi said? What value do you
get out of your lies?

I also like how the Rabbi says at one point something like, “...this is a word we all know, we use it every day in our speech” or something to that effect. Spoken Hebrew of today is literally New Hebrew. Spoken Hebrew was an entirely dead language from around the time of the 2nd century until the late 19th. No one spoke it. Even by the time of Jesus, it was largely only spoken by those reading scripture. Aramaic and Greek were the spoken languages.

What specific word are you refering to?

Why would a Christian care what a Jew says about Jesus?
Why would a Jew care to put this much thought in to convincing a Christian to alter their thoughts on Hayzues?
Might as well argue over whos version of Hansel and Gretel is "real".

I haven't really read much of this thread (out of respect for my sanity), and I'm definitely not watching any video by Rabbi Scheckelgruber, or whatever his name is.

But, for the record, most Western Old Testament Bible translations have been, unfortunately, translated from the Masoretic (ca 1000AD) modern hebrew text. A foolish mistake, in my not so humble opinion. At any rate, translators often would change corrupted passages back to what they should be, so that at least some words and phrases better match the Septuagint (which, by the way, the jews themselves considered to be inspired Holy Scripture....until that awful Jeschu guy came along).

I personally have about as much love for the Eastern Orthodox church as I have for Roman Catholicism, but, they do have one thing right. Their Bible. Majority Text New Testament, and Septuagint Old.

The history of the changing hebrew language, added Psalms, and rewritten Bible passages is pretty interesting. I encourage all to study it for themselves.

2 Peter 3:3

“Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts,”

The commie anti American scum is hitting us with both barrels this fall, arent you Assstarman?

Anyone who don't buy the virgin birth
is anti USA and a commie?

Anyone who believes you is a dumbass.

All who believe Starlicker please say, Aye.

Do you know Trump tweeted that Joseph
was the father of Baby Jesus? ... Christians
were outraged and called it HERESY coz
to a true Christian God is the father.

So according to jX mentality,
Trump is anti USA and a commie.. 😂

King James who authorised the translation
was having sexual relations with his male
courtiers, sounds like the ideal person to
name the title of a Bible after.

Why would those theological scholars and
church authorities of the time allow his name
to grace a Bible?

could it be they had homosexuals and bisexuals
amongst their own?

In and around the time of Jesus, Didn't the Jews
read from Hebrew in the Synagogue and use
Septuagint for study outside Synagogue services?

Did Jesus quote from the Septuagint or give an
Aramaic equivalent?

Jews did not have the identical concept of inspiration
that christians have.. some writings were
super-inspired, others definitely inspired
and others were somewhat inspired.

They did not accept as canonical those
writings called the Old Testament Apocrypha.

Jesus was a Jew who reportedly said that he had come to uphold the law of the prophets.