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Don’t sweat that, Jiveturkey.
You’ll notice that there are smart people on the CF and there are educated ones. The educated ones tend to attack character instead of civilly make points. They’ll often insult you without provocation and then double down by suggesting you’re claiming victim status when this fact is addressed.
He named himself jive turkey. Now you are saying I insulted him?... LoL. and christians Do carry on like victims that easily bruise,.. Your type even quoting Scripture saying how people "hate" you just because they disagree or question. Plenty people disagree on things in the world without calling it "hate"...but you seem to get some weird satisfaction by assuming people hate you...its highly convenient for you to call it hate coz you can then claim it's fulfilling a prophecy. More mature minded open dialog Christians don't take your stance, why is that? Are Christians that don't share your beliefs and dogma hateful heretics in your mind?
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Yes, I am serious. It helps when you provide what you think is justification for your claim that I am dishonest.... and a liar...?
Your arguments center around a statement I made regarding not responding to your posts. Later, I did indeed respond to a post of yours, hence your claim that I am a liar and dishonest. As I said before, I simply changed my mind. But, no matter, go ahead and make your case...
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You don't like what I stated numerous times already. You deny it and won't accept it, now you want me to repeat the exact same yet again?. What practical purpose would that serve you?
I encourage you to once again to support your claim..... those who read your statements and see how you re-define my words ... and describe the situation in spurious ways will be able to make up their own minds about ...
Many people have already read my previous posts on the matter... What makes you think they haven't already made their own minds up?
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I no longer respond nor even read posts by Starman. Rimfire and DBT just joined that club.
Simple trolls..... probably young ones. Safe to say you were in a state of ignoring those members posts.
Well, as usual, you are wrong again. I never had you
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LOL...no doubt the dishonest old fool will persist with his dumb arrogant christian pride. No integrity deluded clowns like TF49 that spruik to the world how they know the "truth" of scripture ..Tff.
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god's not going to allow anything to happen down here on the urth that he doesn't approve of, will he?
i say if it's not god's will he's lost all control and now we're on our own.
should it be every man for himself or remain grouped together?
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Good friend Gus, find Jesus, He knows the Way.
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Good friend Gus, find Jesus, He knows the Way. great advice wabi. i sense that you're not of or related to the calvinists. and that's fine. no problem from me on that account. i do believe god leads us and does cause us to follow? WHY DO YOU choose to not place much emphasis on the calvinistic viewpoint? oh, could god save someone without jesus's help, or is that not possible? please be careful in expressing your answer. best regards, and carry on. i look forward to hearing from various perspectives at the RoundTable.
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He named himself a jive turkey.
Jive turkey?.
One could not find a more befitting name.
Dictionary (3 sources)
jive turkey (US, idiomatic, derogatory, dated slang)
A stupid person; an idiot; a chump.
someone who is unreliable, makes exaggerations
One who speaks as though they know what theyre
talking about...though they do not.- a bullshitter.
Now you are saying I insulted him?... LoL. It’s quite evident that you are to any objective observer. Do you believe intentionally acting obtuse after the fact alleviates that? No need to answer. Let all those with eyes see. Plenty people disagree on things in the world
without calling it "hate"...but you seem to get
some weird satisfaction by assuming people
hate you...its highly convenient for you to call
it hate coz you can then claim it's fulfilling a
prophecy. I’ll assume (by content) that this is not a professional opinion. I will concur with one thing. Plenty of people do disagree on things without calling it “hate.”. They just don’t do it when one party is as hostile as you. Matthew 15:35-37 “The good person out of his good treasure brings forth good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure brings forth evil. I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”
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oh, could god save someone without jesus's help, or is that not possible? please be careful in expressing your answer.
Gus... Why would a loving God reject anyone that approached him directly?.. No christian can prove that it doesn't work. Christianity has the Greco-Roman henotheistic approach to deity... the virgin birth is not in the first Gospel [Mark]...and suddenly appears in the later Matthew and Luke when (not surprisingly) Christianity was now largely trying to convert pagans/gentiles (outside the Levant) that were already long accustomed to virgin birth deities. Essentially the empire did not become Christian, Christianity compromised by adapting to Greco-Roman in order to increase numbers in the flock.. James the brother of Jesus would have been turning in his grave! After death of Gaius Julius Caesar, 42 BC the senate made him into a God..then Caesars adopted Octavian (emperor Augustus). became the "son of god".. Augustus also claimed to be of virgin birth origin. See what you can do with a few votes and the stroke of a scribe?.. 😂 Likewise christians in 325 AD decided by process of rigged slim vote, bribery, threats and intimidation, that Jesus was both human and divine after centuries of ongoing and violent dispute.
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Jesus was a Jew who reportedly said that he had come to uphold the law of the prophets.
And that is exactly what He did....... do you understand this? That is what I said, that there is a verse that states it. Which does not mean that Jesus met the description of the prophesied Messiah. Yep, I knew you did not understand. You seem to have doubt about His upholding the law of the prophets.... but you don’t say why. Yep. That kinda like saying “The facts don’t bear out the claim! but can’t really tell you why...”. Sounds a little like just plain ole...well, you know. Anyway, would you care to share why you believe Jesus did not meet the description of the prophesied Messiah? I would be most impressed if you could use your own words and not just do a cut and paste from some other source. Jesus perfectly upheld the law of the prophets as God gave it. That wasn't the same as what the Jews had warped it into. Jesus took it back to its original meaning.
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Gus, get out your Bible, read! Then Pray!
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Jesus perfectly upheld the law of the prophets as God gave it. That wasn't the same as what the Jews had warped it into. For real. They had what was called the Tradition of the Elders, otherwise known as the Oral Torah. They decided that when Moses came down from Mount Sinai, he came down with a written Torah, and he came down with an Oral Torah, and he passed it along to Joshua who passed it along to the judges, who passed it along to the prophets. It eventually made its way to the Pharisees. And so the Pharisees had all these extra rules that were like a fence around the written law so that nobody would disobey the written law. But the Oral Torah, the Tradition of the Elders had the same authority, in their minds, and had the same authority in culture as the written Torah. And in this non-written Oral Torah, there were dozens of categories of things, not dozens of things, dozens of categories of things that you couldn't' do on the Sabbath. In the Bible, Jesus healed a guy who had been an invalid for 38 years. He told him to pick up his mat and walk. Meanwhile the Pharisees are walkin' around, making sure nobody's violating the laws of the Sabbath, and they see this guy carrying a mat. And they said to the man who had been healed, “it is the Sabbath, the law forbids you to carry that mat.” But actually it didn't, the law didn't forbid him. Their ‘tradition’ would forbid him from carrying a mat. An example of what the Jews had warped the law into.
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[quote=Starman]
He named himself a jive turkey. He's happy to self identify as a jive turkey so what's your issue? is JT bruised or YOU the one that's bruised? I will concur with one Plenty of people do disagree on things without calling it “hate.”. They just don’t do it when one party is as hostile as you.
They don't? Ever considered there are people that are not as fragile, sensitive and insecure as you and hence do not perceive it as hostility? When Christians get emotional they make mountains out of mole hills... They then see devils, persecution, hate, hostility where none exist.. their occluded world of make believe extending far beyond virgin births. History has repeatedly shown how deranged and dangerous such have proven to be. The 30 YEAR war (1618 to 1648) between Protestants and Catholics resulted in some 8 million dead,.. yet christians like wabi gloss over such preferring to harp on about small number of Christians being fed to lions by Pagan Rome... Ask them how many were actually fed to lions? and they can't answer.
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Yes, I am serious. It helps when you provide what you think is justification for your claim that I am dishonest.... and a liar...?
Your arguments center around a statement I made regarding not responding to your posts. Later, I did indeed respond to a post of yours, hence your claim that I am a liar and dishonest. As I said before, I simply changed my mind. But, no matter, go ahead and make your case...
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You don't like what I stated numerous times already. You deny it and won't accept it, now you want me to repeat the exact same yet again?. What practical purpose would that serve you?
I encourage you to once again to support your claim..... those who read your statements and see how you re-define my words ... and describe the situation in spurious ways will be able to make up their own minds about ...
Many people have already read my previous posts on the matter... What makes you think they haven't already made their own minds up?
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I no longer respond nor even read posts by Starman. Rimfire and DBT just joined that club.
Simple trolls..... probably young ones. Safe to say you were in a state of ignoring those members posts.
Well, as usual, you are wrong again. I never had you
on ignore. You just made that up, or, your memory is
just plain faulty.
LOL...no doubt the dishonest old fool will persist with his dumb arrogant christian pride. No integrity deluded clowns like TF49 that spruik to the world how they know the "truth" of scripture ..Tff. Well, this is just the same old stuff from you. You seem to believe that you have proved your allegation that I am dishonest and a liar. All you did was demonstrate that I changed my mind. Only in the bozone would this be proof of “lying.” You also ignore your obvious falsehood .... alleging that I called you a d****h***d. Seems that this is just more fake news spewed forth from you. So, I am again going to ignore your posts and will not respond to your egregious nonsense......well, that is until I change my mind.
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Well, this is just the same old stuff from you. You seem to believe that you have proved your allegation that I am dishonest and a liar.
What were you expecting? You categorically stated you no longer read certain members posts, then categorically denied you ignored their posts. ...go figure. Yet you can't recognize your dishonesty If such fantasy makes you happy so be it.
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Jesus perfectly upheld the law of the prophets as God gave it. That wasn't the same as what the Jews had warped it into. For real. They had what was called the Tradition of the Elders, otherwise known as the Oral Torah. They decided that when Moses came down from Mount Sinai, he came down with a written Torah, and he came down with an Oral Torah, and he passed it along to Joshua who passed it along to the judges, who passed it along to the prophets. It eventually made its way to the Pharisees. And so the Pharisees had all these extra rules that were like a fence around the written law so that nobody would disobey the written law. But the Oral Torah, the Tradition of the Elders had the same authority, in their minds, and had the same authority in culture as the written Torah. And in this non-written Oral Torah, there were dozens of categories of things, not dozens of things, dozens of categories of things that you couldn't' do on the Sabbath. In the Bible, Jesus healed a guy who had been an invalid for 38 years. He told him to pick up his mat and walk. Meanwhile the Pharisees are walkin' around, making sure nobody's violating the laws of the Sabbath, and they see this guy carrying a mat. And they said to the man who had been healed, “it is the Sabbath, the law forbids you to carry that mat.” But actually it didn't, the law didn't forbid him. Their ‘tradition’ would forbid him from carrying a mat. An example of what the Jews had warped the law into. Another classic example is the law to not boil a kid in it's mother's milk. That apparently was a pagan ritual in Canaan at the time and God didn't want them participating in Pagan rituals. The Jews couldn't leave it at that. They expanded it to mean that you couldn't boil ANY meat in ANY milk.Then you couldn't cook meat in any pan that had ever had milk in it. Then you couldn't eat milk and meat at the same meal so they wouldn't mix in your stomach. It's still with us today. Kosher houses today have 2 separate kitchens,1 for cooking meat and 1 for milk.
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Absolute fact. All of them need to.
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Absolute fact. All of them need to. Aliyah, indeed.
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Another classic example is the law to not boil a kid in it's mother's milk. That apparently was a pagan ritual in Canaan at the time and God didn't want them participating in Pagan rituals. The Jews couldn't leave it at that. They expanded it to mean that you couldn't boil ANY meat in ANY milk.Then you couldn't cook meat in any pan that had ever had milk in it. Then you couldn't eat milk and meat at the same meal so they wouldn't mix in your stomach. It's still with us today. Kosher houses today have 2 separate kitchens, 1 for cooking meat and 1 for milk. lol This is what happens when embracing rules and regulations becomes more important than the people that these things were designed to serve and benefit.
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Another classic example is the law to not boil a kid in it's mother's milk. That apparently was a pagan ritual in Canaan at the time and God didn't want them participating in Pagan rituals. The Jews couldn't leave it at that. They expanded it to mean that you couldn't boil ANY meat in ANY milk.Then you couldn't cook meat in any pan that had ever had milk in it. Then you couldn't eat milk and meat at the same meal so they wouldn't mix in your stomach. It's still with us today. Kosher houses today have 2 separate kitchens, 1 for cooking meat and 1 for milk. lol This is what happens when embracing rules and regulations becomes more important than the people that these things were designed to serve and benefit. Here's an example of a kosher kitchen. One side is for meat, the other for dairy. They can never cross. It's miles beyond what God intended, total nonsense. ![[Linked Image from w3.chabad.org]](https://w3.chabad.org/media/images/1056/xoJL10560372.jpg)
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Here's an example of a kosher kitchen. One side is for meat, the other for dairy. They can never cross. It's miles beyond what God intended, total nonsense. lol Can you imagine how the crippled dude felt...? The Jewish ‘holy’ law followers had been ignoring the guy his whole life, thinking he deserved to lay there an invalid for 38 years because either he sinned or his parents sinned, and along comes Jesus asking him to pick up his mat and walk...so he did. And they castigated the healed guy for doing it because he was carrying a mat on the Sabbath...! They said the law forbid him to do that, but actually it was their version of the law...they things they'd added to it...that forbid him from carrying the mat.
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