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The thing is people with preexisting conditions would never have gone to the hospital if they could
breath. They came to the hospital with there heart condition or diabetes or whatever, but what really made them go
was not being able to breath from COVID-19. It was the COVID-19 that either kill or they survived, COVID-19 was the root cause
of death. IF they did not have COVID-19 they either would not have gone to the hospital with there preexisting condition or they
would have gotten there preexisting condition taken care of or they died from it. But if they had COVID-19 and they died that was what
pushed them over the edge and was the root cause of death.
Any rebuttal against this scramble will be futile.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
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Biden didn't win the election.
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So let me get this straight. Lefties think Trump manipulated this virus personally and had his operatives release this on Wuhan and paid the Chicoms not to act until it spread to every county in the world. No one else is to blame. All other countries that allowed the virus in are without fault. Only Trump is bad. Bad, bad, bad!😡
I go back to my post on the 1889 Russian flu. First case in this country was in NYC. 4 days later it was found in Kansas City. Before air travel.
So should President Harrison have been blamed for his lack of response?
Tsar of Russia warned him!!!!
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So, when the "experts" said covid would kill 22 million people in America, Trump downplayed it. Correctly so, as 21.8 million fewer people died than what the "experts said.
"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."
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Antifa setting fires is a complete lie put out by Q anon. No one has been arrested. Four People Arrested For Suspected Arson, Intentionally Setting Wildfires In California, Oregon, Washington Steven Ahle4 min read
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The thing is people with preexisting conditions would never have gone to the hospital if they could breath. They came to the hospital with there heart condition or diabetes or whatever, but what really made them go was not being able to breath from COVID-19. It was the COVID-19 that either kill or they survived, COVID-19 was the root cause of death. IF they did not have COVID-19 they either would not have gone to the hospital with there preexisting condition or they would have gotten there preexisting condition taken care of or they died from it. But if they had COVID-19 and they died that was what pushed them over the edge and was the root cause of death. So, those who came in to the ER as a result of a car wreck, subsequently tested positive for COVID, then died, and the cause of death was listed as COVID, would not have come to the hospital if not for COVID? How about the people who come to the doctor's office for a problem, not knowing they have COVID. They are tested and test positive for COVID so a new case is reported. They leave, come back 3 days later for a new issue and are again tested for COVID even though they are asymptomatic they again test positive, and, the doctors office reports a new case of COVID. So, the same person, tests positive for COVID in a span of three days and accounts for two new cases of COVID. Face it, the medical community has grossly over reported the cases of COVID and the deaths that result from only COVID. COVID, from the start, has been weaponized in yet another stupid attempt by the radical left to overthrow the 2016 Presidential Election.
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First things first, Governor just announced that no Antifa has been arrested for setting fires. Totally false story.
We should have followed Taiwans example on how to fight the COVID-19. First they did very aggressive contact tracing.
If you tested positive you were quarantined for 14 days. But they also gave you a phone that showed the government
your location. If you were where you were not supposed to be or failed to answer the phone they came and arrested you.
Everyone was required to wear a mask outdoors. No businesses were closed and no schools were closed.
Taiwan has a population of 23 million. They had less than 10 deaths. Bottom line Masks and contact tracing are the key,
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So let me get this straight. Lefties think Trump manipulated this virus personally and had his operatives release this on Wuhan and paid the Chicoms not to act until it spread to every county in the world. No one else is to blame. All other countries that allowed the virus in are without fault. Only Trump is bad. Bad, bad, bad!😡
Trump was briefed on Jan 23 and 28 about the looming crisis. And was told it was a deadly serious matter!! He closed down air travel on Jan 31 to China and Europe. Then he told a writer, on Feb 7 on phone, while being recorded, that he knew this was a deadly, airborne disease, which was believed to be at least 5 times more deadly then the most strenuous flu the US experiences each year. Trump has said publicly several times that the flu kills 25-65.000 Americans each year. So, he privately believed it could kill 75 - 325.000 Americans.. and most likely much much more in early January!!! He downplayed it for nearly 6 weeks to the public, calling it a hoax on numerous occasions in fully packed rallies, a Democrat plot, that people should just look at it as a common flu, dont take any serious precautions etc etc etc... It wasn't until March 16, he called for tougher measures.. which led to the entire US economy grinding to a halt as a result! And tens and tens of thousands of Americans dead as a result. And still ALOT his supporters dont even belive its a serious virus.. they are still calling it a hoax. Even on this forum! Had he just kept to his guns that this is an serious matter and ALL Americans should take some precautions, in February when he told the writer, there wouldn't be Trump supporters still calling this a hoax and claiming only 9000 have died from it. Other Asian countries that went straight to tough measures only resulted in minuscule deaths compared to US numbers. And they never shut down their economy...
The US in the last 40 years:
Socialism for big corporations and military industrial complex
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they are still calling it a hoax. Even on this forum!
I can only imagine what they would do during a nuclear fallout.
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So let me get this straight. Lefties think Trump manipulated this virus personally and had his operatives release this on Wuhan and paid the Chicoms not to act until it spread to every county in the world. No one else is to blame. All other countries that allowed the virus in are without fault. Only Trump is bad. Bad, bad, bad!😡
Trump was briefed on Jan 23 and 28 about the looming crisis. And was told it was a deadly serious matter!! He closed down air travel on Jan 31 to China and Europe. Is this when he was called a Xenophobe for shutting down Air Travel by Biden and other communists?`Have you actually looked at Covid deaths throughout the world or talking out of your Azz as usual? We have tested more people then any other country, look it up. Our death rate is way below that of other comparable sized countries. FACT
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First things first, Governor just announced that no Antifa has been arrested for setting fires. Totally false story.
We should have followed Taiwans example on how to fight the COVID-19. First they did very aggressive contact tracing.
If you tested positive you were quarantined for 14 days. But they also gave you a phone that showed the government
your location. If you were where you were not supposed to be or failed to answer the phone they came and arrested you.
Everyone was required to wear a mask outdoors. No businesses were closed and no schools were closed.
Taiwan has a population of 23 million. They had less than 10 deaths. Bottom line Masks and contact tracing are the key,
First things first. Taiwan isn't a free country, and they do not release accurate information. Fu-ck Taiwan. Go live there if it's such a good example.
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First things first, Governor just announced that no Antifa has been arrested for setting fires. Totally false story.
We should have followed Taiwans example on how to fight the COVID-19. First they did very aggressive contact tracing.
If you tested positive you were quarantined for 14 days. But they also gave you a phone that showed the government
your location. If you were where you were not supposed to be or failed to answer the phone they came and arrested you.
Everyone was required to wear a mask outdoors. No businesses were closed and no schools were closed.
Taiwan has a population of 23 million. They had less than 10 deaths. Bottom line Masks and contact tracing are the key,
Please tell me you never had children.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Trump didn't downplay the COVID-19 pandemic to avoid panic. If you believe that BS you must have an IQ of around 10. He obviously did it to try and protect the economy which after all is way more important than peoples lives, right? Especially, if you're a Wall Street hero and have plenty of spondoolies invested and by plenty I mean hundreds of $millions and up.
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First things first. Taiwan isn't a free country, and they do not release accurate information.
Fu-ck Taiwan. Go live there if it's such a good example.
It's supposed to be a democracy, although pretty left leaning - kind of like California.
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I knew GunTruck50 was a halfwit immediately when I saw the first post of his I ever read.
Don't be the darkness.
America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.
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Let me assist you in your formatting. Wouldn't want Northman to think you've joined his side.... So let me get this straight. Lefties think Trump manipulated this virus personally and had his operatives release this on Wuhan and paid the Chicoms not to act until it spread to every county in the world. No one else is to blame. All other countries that allowed the virus in are without fault. Only Trump is bad. Bad, bad, bad!😡
Trump was briefed on Jan 23 and 28 about the looming crisis. And was told it was a deadly serious matter!! He closed down air travel on Jan 31 to China and Europe. Is this when he was called a Xenophobe for shutting down Air Travel by Biden and other communists?`Have you actually looked at Covid deaths throughout the world or talking out of your Azz as usual? We have tested more people then any other country, look it up. Our death rate is way below that of other comparable sized countries. FACT
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I have a challenge for Northman, Gunphouc, Ginter (That includes rginther and RobertJordanFunk) and all the Lefties.
I will concede defeat IF you can tell us what your plan (or the Dem plan) was to STOP the transmission of the virus starting February 1.
Not slow the spread, not flatten the curve, but STOP the spread. Just like New Zealand did.
Any thing other than STOP the spread is irrelevant. Slowing the spread takes what is normally an 18 month event and makes it 36-48 month event in the absence of an effective vaccine that you can get to the public en masse.
Tell me how you could have STOPPED the spread cold and saved everybody. If your answer makes medical and scientific sense, I will not only concede your point but grateful to learn something new.
Now, no BS or pseudo science. Not SLOW the spread. How would you have STOPPED it?
Anything short of that, you are playing Monday Morning Quarterback. Flattening the curve is just spreading out the same number of cases over a longer time period. The virus is out there. It is looking for YOU! Tell me how you absolutely stop it.
Too much evidence that masks don't stop it. Can't stay at home forever.
Your challenge, boys. Are you up to it?
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
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It can not be stopped, right now. There is no easy answer. Best we can do right now is follow Dr. Fauci advice.
Wear a mask, stay 6 feet away from people. Get tested if you feel sick. Contact Tracing is very important. Taiwan
and Germany were able to cut there deaths with it. Good masks do work, get a KN95 mask.
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It can not be stopped, right now. There is no easy answer. Best we can do right now is follow Dr. Fauci advice.
Wear a mask, stay 6 feet away from people. Get tested if you feel sick. Contact Tracing is very important. Taiwan
and Germany were able to cut there deaths with it. Good masks do work, get a KN95 mask. That is the only thing you got right puddin'head, the rest of it is bs.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
"Play Cinnamon Girl you Sonuvabitch!"
Biden didn't win the election.
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It can not be stopped, right now. There is no easy answer. Best we can do right now is follow Dr. Fauci advice.
Wear a mask, stay 6 feet away from people. Get tested if you feel sick. Contact Tracing is very important. Taiwan
and Germany were able to cut there deaths with it. Good masks do work, get a KN95 mask. You are so gullible and so dumb!!! Please don’t breed.
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First things first, Governor just announced that no Antifa has been arrested for setting fires. Totally false story.
We should have followed Taiwans example on how to fight the COVID-19. First they did very aggressive contact tracing.
If you tested positive you were quarantined for 14 days. But they also gave you a phone that showed the government
your location. If you were where you were not supposed to be or failed to answer the phone they came and arrested you.
Everyone was required to wear a mask outdoors. No businesses were closed and no schools were closed.
Taiwan has a population of 23 million. They had less than 10 deaths. Bottom line Masks and contact tracing are the key,
North Korea is reporting zero deaths. You should move there I have a feeling you’ll love it
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