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Someone is not happy now that the fires are slowly getting under control...This is in my area,early this morning,

https://katu.com/news/local/sheriff...87yAOZ9aq1ldUIiPpXwQjseO0IaNrvvLW5zzZUkI


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Originally Posted by 12344mag
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Deniers on here need to wake up.



That's for sure Roy. 1-5 could possibly be copy cat but just the sheer #'s gives it away as arson.


Thank you Paul.

That there are people posting here to the contrary tells me this forum is corrupted with closet liberals (idiots)


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Originally Posted by Santiam
Someone is not happy now that the fires are slowly getting under control...This is in my area,early this morning,

https://katu.com/news/local/sheriff...87yAOZ9aq1ldUIiPpXwQjseO0IaNrvvLW5zzZUkI

Santiam,

first, hope these don't hit too close to your homestead.

second, the areas noted in that link? Suburban/farmland mix? Up in the big woods or on the edges? Just curious.


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Originally Posted by Santiam
Someone is not happy now that the fires are slowly getting under control...This is in my area,early this morning,

https://katu.com/news/local/sheriff...87yAOZ9aq1ldUIiPpXwQjseO0IaNrvvLW5zzZUkI


Nope, that was high winds, powerlines, high humidity, 100-year-event driving that 1990's white Nissan pickup with a black canopy. LOL.

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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Santiam
Someone is not happy now that the fires are slowly getting under control...This is in my area,early this morning,

https://katu.com/news/local/sheriff...87yAOZ9aq1ldUIiPpXwQjseO0IaNrvvLW5zzZUkI

Santiam,

first, hope these don't hit too close to your homestead.

second, the areas noted in that link? Suburban/farmland mix? Up in the big woods or on the edges? Just curious.



It is all of those things..Private timberland,farms, hay fields, house here and there.. The locals are saying the culprits better hope the cops catch them first.

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Originally Posted by renegade50
I bet 25 to 50 % of these fires across the entire west are arson.

Need to be huge mandatory sentences for it.

At the least......


I'd reckon 75% or more are not organic. The dumb ones are getting caught. With those winds and dry grass/brush, getting a BIG fire going in an instant doesn't require much accelerant.


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I can bet the locals are saying that.

And I'm real happy I don't live in that area and drive a 90s white pickup with a black shell on it!


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Originally Posted by Vek
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I bet 25 to 50 % of these fires across the entire west are arson.

Need to be huge mandatory sentences for it.

At the least......


I'd reckon 75% or more are not organic.



Yep, 75% of all these are arson related?

https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/


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Might this be a reason the "authorities" are downplaying arson reports?

https://katu.com/news/local/armed-n...asking-for-id-multnomah-co-deputies-said


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Yep, 75% of all these are arson related?

https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/


I wouldn't be at all surprised.

There are literally what, hundreds or even thousands of mis-guided idiots claiming antifa connections?

If antifa sent people out to light fires, and I believe it's probable, I think they would be very successful doing it. Now if they tried it in western Oregon in the winter, I bet they couldn't light a fire with a nuclear warhead, but now, with these conditions, yeah, they could light hundreds of fires in no time.


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30Gibbs - Camp Nelson/Cedar Slope Area?


Nope, More south. Panorama Park, Panorama Heights community, s.e. of Sugarloaf. I've been in Camp Nelson quite a few times. Used to be quite a Black bear problem around there. i don't know about now.

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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Might this be a reason the "authorities" are downplaying arson reports?

https://katu.com/news/local/armed-n...asking-for-id-multnomah-co-deputies-said



Citizens doing something when authorities either can't, or won't, but appear to be aiding and abetting the enemy amongst us.


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I see a bunch of events in wa, or and north CA, with the ignition location close to paved road or service road access, all starting in the same timeframe. Bump my estimate to 90%, please.


Originally Posted by Valsdad
Might this be a reason the "authorities" are downplaying arson reports?

https://katu.com/news/local/armed-n...asking-for-id-multnomah-co-deputies-said


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Who was it that posted the map showing all the fires stopping at the Canadian line?

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March that firebug into the path of the nearest out of control, fire, and shoot him in both knees. No point in calling the cops- - - -Soros, or Bloomberg, or one of the Hollyweird traitors, or maybe LeBron James will just bail him out and give him more matches to play with.


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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Who was it that posted the map showing all the fires stopping at the Canadian line?

This map?

https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/


Well, it's a US Federal Fire map, so it makes sense they stop at the border.


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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Who was it that posted the map showing all the fires stopping at the Canadian line?


Didn't see that, but that's sounds interesting. Was there an explanation from "add" and all the others saying how it's not arson?


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Originally Posted by Vek

I see a bunch of events in wa, or and north CA, with the ignition location close to paved road or service road access, all starting in the same timeframe. Bump my estimate to 90%, please.


Originally Posted by Valsdad
Might this be a reason the "authorities" are downplaying arson reports?

https://katu.com/news/local/armed-n...asking-for-id-multnomah-co-deputies-said





Well if the cops can't do it someone has to.


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I live in one of the biggest counties with I-5 running thru it, and we still only have 7 people per square mile, Valsdad's county is 2.25 people per sq mile.
I don't think a lot of you folks from the eastern states really understand what "remote" means as it applies to the mountain West. 4 of the biggest fires in mountain northern Calif. and Southern Oregon are in areas that have no roads...none. An arsonist would need physical training, backpack, food....basically he'd need to be a Army Ranger candidate, to access the country where these fires appear to have started. Lightning caused fires can be "sleepers" for up to 2 weeks after a lightning event...and this is common. And we had a lightning storm less than 2 weeks ago. Remote radio and telephone repeater sites are on mountain tops, some have no electricity and generate power by burning propane heating thermal generators, some of the ones closer to civilization have power lines running up heavily forested ridgelines. All are frequently exposed to wind and weather events that you folks back east call hurricanes and tropical storms. This is not conjecture..this is fact.
Arson, hell yes, nearer to populated areas, but after the dust settles I think we will discover that even the arson is primarily caused by homeless druggies and meth heads, great way to wipe out a drug debt, great way to put a competing marijuana grower out of business. It is harvest time in the Emerald Triangle.
And yes, there is a political element out there plotting to disrupt the system. I think we will find that these idiots operate in or very near urban centers and universities. But, I will publicly apologize to you guys if it turns out more than a quarter of the fires were arson/sabotage.


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