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Hot off the presses. Leupold MK5 delivers yet once again. First elk with Wyoming Arms 4 Squared suppressor, thanks Brad Dana. 420 yds and might break 400 inches. ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/5852/fLD918.jpg) SOMBITCH, what a Bull! Congrats! 
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Hot off the presses. Leupold MK5 delivers yet once again. First elk with Wyoming Arms 4 Squared suppressor, thanks Brad Dana. 420 yds and might break 400 inches. SOMBITCH, what a Bull! Congrats! Lotta big bulls bein killed this year
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Hot off the presses. Leupold MK5 delivers yet once again. First elk with Wyoming Arms 4 Squared suppressor, thanks Brad Dana. 420 yds and might break 400 inches. SOMBITCH, what a Bull! Congrats! Lotta big bulls bein killed this year Nice! I just been slinging BULLshlT, pasture grass/hay looks good with all the rain though ; ]
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Btw my new batch of layin hens are doin stellar!! 😂😂 ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/nzKMq44c/6857-E28-C-D844-45-F3-8-E72-987-CAB8-A09-B7.jpg) Hey Judman, What happened to Fred? Nice chickens!
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Burns, which is better on average at tracking and zero retention, Leupold or Nightforce? I don't have a dog in this fight but in order to answer that question wouldn't one have to know the total number of scopes built by Leupold and Nightforce? That is a number that I doubt that either company would give out as public info. Then of course you would have to weed out the ones that where the failure was caused by accidental damage rather than a scope design or manufacture fault. It seems to me that you are asking a question that is impossible to answer. drover No, but thats how I expect Burns to answer, if he will even touch it. I think Nightforce work fine. I choose Leupolds for the most part because they offer the best features in a weight class.
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Very diplomatic answer. 
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I choose Leupolds for the most part because they offer the best features in a weight class.
In the weight class, I can buy that. Weight is the reason I held on so long. Finally took the weight penalty in trade for function.
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Yes, where did that come from?
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Btw my new batch of layin hens are doin stellar!! 😂😂 Hey Judman, What happened to Fred? Nice chickens! Dunno have to ask beaver10. Thanks love me some good layers!!
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I answer pretty nice if it's not a personal attack. 
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IThe further away you are from game, the less likelihood of detection, that's pretty simple and universal. Many here assume if we use the wrong scope or choose not to shoot at long distance that we are not good marksmen. In fact , over and over we've seen the optics geeks say anybody who doesn't use XYZ scope simply isn't a good enough shot to know if their scope holds zero or not. Nothing could be further from the truth.
That's simply not correct, & no one has said anything close to that, but you. In densely covered areas, yes, it's easier for a good hunter to get closer to game in the east or in the west. What you just don't seem to get is that in the west, in more open or fully open areas, game spots you at much, much longer distances. It's not a matter of being a better hunter in either scenario, it's a matter of circumstances dictating how you hunt & at what distances shots may need to be made..................or no shot at all, maybe on a book head or a once in a lifetime ram or............................. Especially if you are hunting for a trophy, & fully mature animal, not an immature 1 1/2 year old. The more you yap the more you simply discredit yourself. MM Bullshyt, you're either lying or stupid. Which is it ? Blackheart you are just wrong on this. I grew hunting black tail deer and my longest shot for years was just over 100 yards. When I started hunting Idaho and Nevada in many places there was no cover no way to get close. I have let a lot a deer walk because I couldn’t get within comfortable range at the time There are many different ways to hunt and take game. Your myopia is telling. That's hunting. You ain't supposed to be able to kill every animal you see. The quarry is supposed to have a sporting chance of detecting danger and making an escape. How did they ever manage to get it done before the advent of rangefinders ? Folks today want to make everything as easy as possible, replacing skill and work with gadgetry. I agree to an extent. I’m not talking about shooting 700-1000 yards. I’m talking about taking a shot at max 600 for someone like me. That’s with the a good rifle, scope and range finder. I pride myself on getting close to deer. Longest shot I have ever taken was just over 300 yards on a buck in Idaho. If someone is proficient at shooting game from longer distances then to each there own. The dumbasses that just sling lead at any distance because they see an animal are worthless. We are all hunters and hopefully sportsman. We should support each other. Fair chase is the only way...
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Burns, which is better on average at tracking and zero retention, Leupold or Nightforce? I don't have a dog in this fight but in order to answer that question wouldn't one have to know the total number of scopes built by Leupold and Nightforce? That is a number that I doubt that either company would give out as public info. Then of course you would have to weed out the ones that where the failure was caused by accidental damage rather than a scope design or manufacture fault. It seems to me that you are asking a question that is impossible to answer. drover No, but thats how I expect Burns to answer, if he will even touch it. I think Nightforce work fine. I choose Leupolds for the most part because they offer the best features in a weight class. John, that actually is a thoughtful answer. Nice bull.
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John,
that actually is a thoughtful answer. Nice bull.
I hope I have not caused some confusion about that bull. Brad Dana took it in MT. It is a great bull.
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What are the rifle specifics? Bulet?
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Another hammer got killed up in the bear paws last couple days with archery, wearing a leupold of course 😂😂
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John,
that actually is a thoughtful answer. Nice bull.
I hope I have not caused some confusion about that bull. Brad Dana took it in MT. It is a great bull. Ah, thanks for the clarification. Congrats to him. You have posted several nice ones as well.
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What are the rifle specifics? Bulet? Wyoming Arms 4 Squared suppressor Paradigm barrel 6.5MM Sherman Short 140gr VLDs Leupold MK 5 3.6-18X44. Mausingfield action. American Rifle Co
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Shooting long distance doesn't bother me much, but that suppressor just ain't fair at all , hell at least you could fire a warning shot to give the animal a heads up, or maybe just pop some smoke , so at least they knew what way to look and which way to run !  Nice bull by the way !
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Hot off the presses. Leupold MK5 delivers yet once again. First elk with Wyoming Arms 4 Squared suppressor, thanks Brad Dana. 420 yds and might break 400 inches. Brad Dana. Hizoly shiznit!
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