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Can someone explain to me how they are of no help at all!
I thought their purpose was to limit the distance a infected person could potentially cough or sneeze the viral load from their own person, thus thus slowing transmission by limiting exposure just as in social distancing?
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Frankly, whether they "work" or not, forcing someone to wear one (especially when they're NOT sick) is tyranny. Period.
If masks "work", then shouldn't we be forced to wear them all the time.. for everything? The flu. The cold. Everything else. Think of the lives that would be saved! And remember, if it saves just ONE life, it's all worth it!
People get sick. That's the way of the world.
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I have no idea of the medical explanation for masks (pro or con), but have been traveling a lot since the virus hit and have a few observations. First, a lot of people aren't wearing masks in a way that will stop the aerosol effect of sneezing, etc. Whether it's a guy (or chick, in CA) with a beard or the mask not fitting right or even just the little gaps around the nose and mouth when you wear one, things are going to sneak out. Second, things like having to wear a mask when you walk into a restaurant but not when you're eating pretty much obviates any benefit masks may have. Third, just as a matter of common sense, viruses are very small and the weave of a typical mask people wear just can't really stop the viruses from getting through.
I wear a mask when I have to, particularly when I fly, and I've seen people do all of the above in one of the worst environments possible for a virus spread (an aircraft). If I've had the virus, it wasn't a big deal. I've had a few colds since about January 2020 and for all I know, it was the virus. There are things I'm much more concerned about, like BLM riots.
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Lick all the doorknobs you want, people are [bleep] filthy.
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Frankly, whether they "work" or not, forcing someone to wear one (especially when they're NOT sick) is tyranny. Period.
If masks "work", then shouldn't we be forced to wear them all the time.. for everything? The flu. The cold. Everything else. Think of the lives that would be saved! And remember, if it saves just ONE life, it's all worth it!
People get sick. That's the way of the world. So people should be allowed to effect other peoples health? What about the personal responsibility? You never did explain that they do not work at all, your thoughts?
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Frankly, whether they "work" or not, forcing someone to wear one (especially when they're NOT sick) is tyranny. Period.
If masks "work", then shouldn't we be forced to wear them all the time.. for everything? The flu. The cold. Everything else. Think of the lives that would be saved! And remember, if it saves just ONE life, it's all worth it!
People get sick. That's the way of the world. So people should be allowed to effect other peoples health? What about the personal responsibility? You never did explain that they do not work at all, your thoughts? If you’re not sick/tested positive how are you effecting someone else’s health? Where do you draw the line? Is BLM/Antifa rioters burning and destroying folks private property and endangering people’s lives a concern to you? Do you advocate violence as we’re seeing in major cities around the us?
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Frankly, whether they "work" or not, forcing someone to wear one (especially when they're NOT sick) is tyranny. Period.
If masks "work", then shouldn't we be forced to wear them all the time.. for everything? The flu. The cold. Everything else. Think of the lives that would be saved! And remember, if it saves just ONE life, it's all worth it!
People get sick. That's the way of the world. So people should be allowed to effect other peoples health? What about the personal responsibility? You never did explain that they do not work at all, your thoughts? So put a mask on protect yourself or stay home, don't force it upon others
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Prove that most masks and the manner they’re worn do absolutely anything to stop the spread. Masks are a symbol of leftist compliance and their never ending desire to be part of a “community”. Liberals are sheep that demand they be cared for. Culls that should be allowed to die off. The weak, sick.... the beta’s.
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Frankly, whether they "work" or not, forcing someone to wear one (especially when they're NOT sick) is tyranny. Period.
If masks "work", then shouldn't we be forced to wear them all the time.. for everything? The flu. The cold. Everything else. Think of the lives that would be saved! And remember, if it saves just ONE life, it's all worth it!
People get sick. That's the way of the world. So people should be allowed to effect other peoples health? What about the personal responsibility? You never did explain that they do not work at all, your thoughts? If you’re not sick/tested positive how are you effecting someone else’s health? Where do you draw the line? Is BLM/Antifa rioters burning and destroying folks private property and endangering people’s lives a concern to you? Do you advocate violence as we’re seeing in major cities around the us? Are you familiar with the term asymptomatic? CDC estimates 45% of all virus carriers have no symptoms, think about that for a minute. You could be one of those people yourself, why would you want to unknowingly infect someone else? Seems like the descent thing to do to protect others, kind of simple if you ask me. What is the correlation between protecting someone else's health with some mask wearing/social distancing and the rioting for you, as I have a hard time following that connection?
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We should outlaw vehicles because people may get in an accident and hurt or kill someone.
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Prove that most masks and the manner they’re worn do absolutely anything to stop the spread. Masks are a symbol of leftist compliance and their never ending desire to be part of a “community”. Liberals are sheep that demand they be cared for. Culls that should be allowed to die off. The weak, sick.... the beta’s. So your suggesting that having a cloth mask does nothing to limit the distance a viral load could be discharged from your face? Like a handkerchief does nothing as well when you blow your nose, it catches nothing or does not limit the distance the crud can travel, it all completely escapes the handkerchief? Have the laws of physics ceased to exist in your world?
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We should outlaw vehicles because people may get in an accident and hurt or kill someone. Do we not have laws governing their use to protect people? Nice try!
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The level of filtration required to filter out something as small as a virus particle is not going to be achieved with masks not intended or appropriate for that purpose. Combine that with the fact that even if the masks do have some benefit, a strict protocol combined with other protective equipment measures would have to be followed in hope of getting any benefit. It's an all or nothing scenario ........... either you always follow a very strict protocol without deviation or it essentially becomes useless. So you combine these cloth or procedure masks with non-medically trained people and there is nothing there other than a ridiculous mandate. The vast majority of people cannot comprehend the micron particle sized, airborne transmission, and how highly contagious these respiratory viruses are. Even medically trained professionals that are caring for COVID patients and use multiple levels of PPE (N95 masks, gowns, gloves, hand hygiene, contact precations, etc) are contracting the virus. Both them and the patients are wearing masks, how did they get it if masks prevent the spread??
It's a real disservice to the public that some medical "experts" are leading people to believe that if you follow their recommendations you can prevent the spread of this virus. Not all medical experts feel that way. There are plenty of highly trained people that do not agree with these unjustified mandates. About the only thing being filtered out these days is the various media sources filtering out opinion of these experts.
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We should outlaw vehicles because people may get in an accident and hurt or kill someone. Do we not have laws governing their use to protect people? Nice try! Like seat belts, another gooberment overreach..
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We should outlaw vehicles because people may get in an accident and hurt or kill someone. Do we not have laws governing their use to protect people? Nice try! You truly are an idiot. Traffic laws don't prevent accidents, just like wearing a mask doesn't prevent spreading microbes.
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Little lefty pussies that want to wear a mask should do so.
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