I have a big fat Canada goose ready for the oven and pumpkin pie in the fridge. Our son will be home from university, but the big family gathering is not happening this year. The day following Thanksgiving I have a date to take my 15 yr. old nephew and his dog on their first duck hunt.
Fairly low key this year...and worked around the farm has piled up. My roof, a nuisance Grizzly and have got to reset shoes for a Goat hunt on Sunday. The Elk rut is peaking, a few are being tipped over, hence the bear activity. Thank God for our blessings on the West slope of the Rockies.
It is October 9th, the sun is shining and it is 18 degrees. I am at the trailer. This is where I go to write and relax.
Back home, Thanksgiving will be quieter, but I still get to see the grandkids. They live one road over from me, and will be here. This week coming, my SIL and I will help the neighbour with his "new to him" baler. The septic is pumped, and we are just about ready for winter.
I'd love to spend the good holiday in Canada some year.
No pilgrims I'll guess?
Who were Canada's 'Pilgrims"?
wabigoon; Good morning to you my friend, I hope that this Canadian Thanksgiving finds you and your fine family well.
While I'm far from an expert on such matters, I'll take a stab at an answer but again the gentle readers will have to understand a lot of this is somewhat subjective.
The original American Pilgrims left England and went to Holland for nearly 20 years first, in large part for religious freedom. They then decided to leave Holland both to retain their English heritage and values but as well to avoid being caught up in a possible war between Holland and Spain.
Thus if we set the criteria for "pilgrims" as a group wanting to maintain both their religious and cultural identity, I'd opine it was the Mennonites who came to the Niagara River area from Pennsylvania in the late 1770's.
No doubt the American Revolution had something to do with it as well, since as a group at that time and still today the Mennonite faith promotes pacifism.
Please note I have Mennonites in my immediate family and believe that I understand and absolutely do respect those who believe in pacifism, I just do not happen to embrace that belief myself for a multitude of what I feel are valid reasons.
All that then said sir, I'd nominate them for those reasons, but there certainly were groups that came to Canada previous to that for other reasons and I'd love to hear anyone else's thoughts on the subject for sure as I find it interesting.
Lastly, although I believe you know this about me wabigoon, both of my grandfathers came to Canada from Europe as refugees so I've got a fairly large helping of empathy for folks in the same boat today.
All the best to you all again and Happy Thanksgiving to you all.
As I recall from reading our government's latest interpretation of history, Canada's pilgrims were actually boatloads of black and Asian Muslims who got lost, searching for a floating mosque. Many of them were female, and spoke French. They came to North America to escape the tyranny of several groups of old, fat white men, Christians, and European pacifists.
The now famous "Battle of Away" happened in the late 1400s when several boatloads of Vikings arrived on the shores of Newfoundland at the same time as the pilgrims. There was an instant hatred between the two groups. This resulted in an ongoing war between the two that lasted 20 years. The pilgrims detested the Vikings and their blonde hair and blue eyes. The Vikings didn't like the pilgrims because they could not speak Norgy.
Finally, in the early 1500s, this fellow - Valnorg the Ornary - defeated the pilgrims, but allowed a boatload to sail away. This act of kindness, unusual for Vikings historians say, could have been the reason why we had trouble with them hundreds of years later. So, in a way, it was a white person's fault for all the nonsense going on in the world today. The fighting. The hatred. COVID monkeys and acne.
Happy Thanksgiving to you sir, I hope all is well with you and your clan on what's looking to be a nice day out west here.
Well where does one begin with a response sir!
When I looked up Valnorg the Ornary and the Battle of Away, it also made references to some opening skirmishes such as the clash of "You look strange and your mother dresses you funny" and of course culminating with the little known battle on the beach head of "You folks kindly bugger off now".
The latter of course set the passive aggressive tone for Canuck "niceness" for the next several centuries, which if one reads between the lines in our history shows we really weren't all that nice, just acted that way to cover up for it all.
Perhaps it was accented by our founding fathers who were mainly semi-sober Scotsman eventually meeting for a drinking bout in PEI and coming up with the confederation concept during an ale run?
Thanks for the laugh Steve, am still enjoying your book too by the way.
The Pilgrims were not even close to being first to arrive in North America. At least two other groups came over. Asians crossed Beringia, a land bridge at the Bering Strait that connected Asia to NA, anywhere from 13,000 to 20,000 years ago. Who would question the archeologists?
The other crossing that I know of was around 1000 AD by several groups of Scandinavian wild men we know as the Vikings. Eric the Red, his brother Thorvald, Vinny the Purple, Murray the K, etc.
Either of these two was hundreds or thousands of years before the Pilgrims, turkey or before Mexico gave us pumpkins.
Steve; Good evening to you sir, I hope the day was a fine one for you and if this was feast day for you like it was for us, then I hope you're recovering.
For sure the Pilgrims were not close to the first anything here in North America, but I answered taking the question of which group might have come to Canada for similar reasons that the Pilgrims did - which was religious freedom and less persecution for their beliefs than they were having back where they came from.
As a bit of a student of history I actually find some of the archeological stuff being looked at these days extremely interesting, including the Salutrean theory which is still young and controversial, but interesting nonetheless.
There were also findings on the southern tip of Argentina which predate previous finds by several thousand years apparently, so again I think that as we learn more about how to interpret some of this it'll change our views on world travel.
I'll note that when I was in school they still didn't have a handle on how long the Vikings were established at L'anse au Meadows and the latest I read seemed to indicate that they had permanent settlement there to trade with the Dorset peoples for as much as 500 years - or more.
Anyways sir, it's always a subject I could talk too much about and am very much interested in for sure.