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Planning a trip to Salmon next summer

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Anything bigger than a 2 point. You may even wish you'd had shot one of them before you are done. There are so many hunters all over Idaho anymore that finding a truly big buck in a general hunt is beyond difficult. The deer get the heck shot out of them with near unbelievable hunting pressure. If you see a 3x4 or similar in the 16"-20" wide range (3 yr old, horns ~ wide as ears) you will be doing good. There are a few of the 4 and 5 year olds around but they know what is up and it takes snow or the rut to get them out of the high country. Neither of those are likely to happen in general rifle season Oct 10-24. Hate to lay it out like that and wish it were different, but that has not been the case in the last 10 years. Good luck, maybe you will be 'the guy' to stumble onto a giant.



Pretty much the situation, but I'll add that that is tough ass hunting most everywhere in central ID, up into the panhandle & Selway.

A typical "decent" buck will be a 4x4 and around even with the ears, which is usually around 20"-22", depending on the deer................not a great deer, just typical "decent". If you find that, you probably should take it.

Just my view of the world, but unless you just want meat, I wouldn't shoot one smaller, but that may well be all you find.

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have you met 'Flave yet ?


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Great I look forward to it

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I grew up up the river, and will be hunting all next week myself. If you are back away from people a ways and can stay out and glass early and late you may find a good buck. I think 160 is realistic if you do. I pack back in a ways and just stay where I hunt. It's a little uncomfortable, but often productive. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by atse
I grew up up the river, and will be hunting all next week myself. If you are back away from people a ways and can stay out and glass early and late you may find a good buck. I think 160 is realistic if you do. I pack back in a ways and just stay where I hunt. It's a little uncomfortable, but often productive. Good luck.


I will do this. I am comfortable being uncomfortable 😬. Especially if it gets me the least bit of an advantage. Thanks for the tip.

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Idaho is not the best deer hunting state imo. And there is steep and then there's Idaho steep. 2 different things. Hopefully you have some mountain goat lungs and legs to get you where you need to be. Good luck and enjoy some beautiful country.

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Idaho for sure is stupidly crowded with out of staters, but it was that way 20+ years ago and the deer are still there. I remember in the 90's seeing hundreds of pickup lights headed up the mountain roads on opening morning in the southern part of the state. It looked like an army invading. Not too sure about the Salmon area though. Regardless, I wouldn't let the nay sayers influence your thinking that anything bigger than a forked horn is rare to find.

You'll be at a disadvantage not knowing the area you plan to hunt, but big deer are still killed every year there on general tags.
I know two people who consistently kill respectable 160" mule deer there (sometimes 2 a year) on general season/public land hunts. They've got the advantage of having hunted their spots for several years though, and they also usually scout pretty heavily before the hunt, which it sounds like you don't have going for you.

The biggest factor I've noticed with mule deer newcomers is that they think they're in good enough shape mentally and physically to do what they have to do....which more often than not ends up not being the case. Many also erroneously think high tech gear makes up for those deficiencies. The two hunters mentioned above would make a lot of folks on these boards (who kill a lot less) laugh at the shït gear they use. You may or may not fit that mold.....I don't know you from Adam, but thought I'd throw that out there.



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What state/zone.


I’ll be around Salmon Idaho. It is a general tag so I’ve got some flexibility and I will be truck camping. I’m cool walking a lot if I need to and can bivy out. I’ve only got five days so just plan on walking and sitting and glassing and trying to get on a buck.



2 by 2 if you're lucky in that unit

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What state/zone.


I’ll be around Salmon Idaho. It is a general tag so I’ve got some flexibility and I will be truck camping. I’m cool walking a lot if I need to and can bivy out. I’ve only got five days so just plan on walking and sitting and glassing and trying to get on a buck.



2 by 2 if you're lucky in that unit

You need to get off the road more. There are some good deer around.

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My good buddy moved to the area. He can get you on some good wolf shooting.


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Historically, most of the big deer killed in ID have come from the SE part of the state.

Or in some of the special draw, late seasons, like Swan Valley.

Just sayin'.

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My good buddy moved to the area. He can get you on some good wolf shooting.


Now that sounds cool. I’d love that. I do have a tag.

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You need to decide what class buck you want to kill and not settle for anything less. It might happen on the first day or might never happen.


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Originally Posted by T_Inman
Idaho for sure is stupidly crowded with out of staters, but it was that way 20+ years ago and the deer are still there. I remember in the 90's seeing hundreds of pickup lights headed up the mountain roads on opening morning in the southern part of the state. It looked like an army invading. Not too sure about the Salmon area though. Regardless, I wouldn't let the nay sayers influence your thinking that anything bigger than a forked horn is rare to find.

You'll be at a disadvantage not knowing the area you plan to hunt, but big deer are still killed every year there on general tags.
I know two people who consistently kill respectable 160" mule deer there (sometimes 2 a year) on general season/public land hunts. They've got the advantage of having hunted their spots for several years though, and they also usually scout pretty heavily before the hunt, which it sounds like you don't have going for you.

The biggest factor I've noticed with mule deer newcomers is that they think they're in good enough shape mentally and physically to do what they have to do....which more often than not ends up not being the case. Many also erroneously think high tech gear makes up for those deficiencies. The two hunters mentioned above would make a lot of folks on these boards (who kill a lot less) laugh at the shït gear they use. You may or may not fit that mold.....I don't know you from Adam, but thought I'd throw that out there.
Pretty sure I know one of them...

The last paragraph can't be over stated.

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Originally Posted by tikkanut
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have you met 'Flave yet ?


No I haven’t. Still pretty new to the forum. Came over here on Big Sky’s recommendation. I know him from Rokslide. So far I’m loving it.



I'll send him over

he always welcomes the new bees

That's just phuggin' mean. LOL


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Originally Posted by pointer
[quote=T_Inman]Idaho for sure is stupidly crowded with out of staters, but it was that way 20+ years ago and the deer are still there. I remember in the 90's seeing hundreds of pickup lights headed up the mountain roads on opening morning in the southern part of the state. It looked like an army invading. Not too sure about the Salmon area though. Regardless, I wouldn't let the nay sayers influence your thinking that anything bigger than a forked horn is rare to find.

You'll be at a disadvantage not knowing the area you plan to hunt, but big deer are still killed every year there on general tags.
I know two people who consistently kill respectable 160" mule deer there (sometimes 2 a year) on general season/public land hunts. They've got the advantage of having hunted their spots for several years though, and they also usually scout pretty heavily before the hunt, which it sounds like you don't have going for you.

The biggest factor I've noticed with mule deer newcomers is that they think they're in good enough shape mentally and physically to do what they have to do....which more often than not ends up not being the case. Many also erroneously think high tech gear makes up for those deficiencies. The two hunters mentioned above would make a lot of folks on these boards (who kill a lot less) laugh at the shït gear they use. You may or may not fit that mold.....I don't know you from Adam, but thought I'd throw that out there.
Pretty sure I know one of them...


Thanks for the heads up. Fitness is solid. And my stuff is boringly non cool. But it works.

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Originally Posted by pointer
Originally Posted by T_Inman
Idaho for sure is stupidly crowded with out of staters, but it was that way 20+ years ago and the deer are still there. I remember in the 90's seeing hundreds of pickup lights headed up the mountain roads on opening morning in the southern part of the state. It looked like an army invading. Not too sure about the Salmon area though. Regardless, I wouldn't let the nay sayers influence your thinking that anything bigger than a forked horn is rare to find.

You'll be at a disadvantage not knowing the area you plan to hunt, but big deer are still killed every year there on general tags.
I know two people who consistently kill respectable 160" mule deer there (sometimes 2 a year) on general season/public land hunts. They've got the advantage of having hunted their spots for several years though, and they also usually scout pretty heavily before the hunt, which it sounds like you don't have going for you.

The biggest factor I've noticed with mule deer newcomers is that they think they're in good enough shape mentally and physically to do what they have to do....which more often than not ends up not being the case. Many also erroneously think high tech gear makes up for those deficiencies. The two hunters mentioned above would make a lot of folks on these boards (who kill a lot less) laugh at the shït gear they use. You may or may not fit that mold.....I don't know you from Adam, but thought I'd throw that out there.
Pretty sure I know one of them...

Yes you do, and he's sitting at camp right now with a bear skin to keep warm and a 6x6 elk to eat.
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Originally Posted by MosesTucker

Thanks for the heads up. Fitness is solid.

This is exactly what I am referring to when I say many mule deer (and elk) newcomers think they're in good enough shape---mentally and physically---to do a non-guided PL/GS western hunt....I've had a lot of people over the years tell me that exact thing, and only a very small percentage of them actually were....I'm not trying to be negative or a dick...just trying to be honest. I do truly hope you're in that small percentage.

Good luck to you either way...



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I have some very fond memmories of the Salmon River area. Years ago I hunted a lot near Ellis (where the Pahsimeroi River joins the Salmon) south of the city of Salmon. In those days (1965-1975) there were few hunters and lots of deer. You could buy two buck deer tags over the counter. And, the season stayed open until Thanksgiving. I'd describe how fantastic the hunting was but few would believe me. I know my re-living the past doesn't help you. Anyway, Good Luck !!

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