|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 60,748
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 60,748 |
I read, the are bigger than the western Condors?
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 13,759
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 13,759 |
Birdie,
where do those vultures end up, do you know?
I looked it up on the Cornell Lab of Ornithology subscriber website “Birds of the World”. The ones that leave the US in winter are mostly the northern and western populations. Indeed you could see the local vultures all day long, plainly not joining the migrating hordes which do not feed on migration. They migrate to Guatemala and points south, lots in Venezuela and Colombia with a whole bunch wintering over the Amazon. Yeah, there's a big number that stay year round here. But I'm seeing more black vultures, more and more. Neighbor rancher had to run off a big bunch of vultures that were attacking a cow and newborn calf a few days ago. Mama cow was fighting them off, but there were too many. The black vultures have really increased in number here in NE AL over the last several years. They are very aggressive, especially in comparison to the turkey vultures. Earlier this year a large group of black vultures with a few turkey vultures perched around one of my water troughs and wouldn't let cattle and goats get to it. The black vultures would open their wings when cattle or goats would come toward the water and swoop at the stock if they came forward. I had to persuaded them to leave. I'm assuming it was the same group that killed a calf born at my father's a 1/2 mile away. Worried it to death and pecked the eyes out. Lot of stress on the mother as well. I think protections should be lifted on the black vultures in any case where they are a nuisance.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,603
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,603 |
You can get a permit to kill vultures if they are attacking livestock. But you have a hard burden of proof before they will issue one.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,603
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,603 |
I read, the are bigger than the western Condors? I don't think that's so.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 69,325
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 69,325 |
Where do you find enough dead democrats to feed 20k buzzards?
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 11,756
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 11,756 |
You can get a permit to kill vultures if they are attacking livestock. But you have a hard burden of proof before they will issue one. I suppose if a rancher is checking his cattle and finds vultures trying to kill a $1000 calf, he applies for a permit to kill a vulture, after the permit arrives months later. “Cmon man”
NRA Patron
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 60,748
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 60,748 |
I'll assume they nest in spring, I don't know where the do nest however?
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 17,098
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 17,098 |
Ain't no reason we can't legally shoot the damned things....same with Eagles hawks and owls Well, other than the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918... That's the point. The treaty needs to be repealed. If you've been paying attention, I believe Cormorants were listed on that treated as well...Ontario is now putting an open season on them. Hopefully hawks and eagles follow suit
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 69,325
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 69,325 |
Our congress has a habit of passing emotional environment laws that can't be repealed even long after they've served their purpose and are now detrimental. Think feral horses and marine mammals.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,603
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,603 |
Ain't no reason we can't legally shoot the damned things....same with Eagles hawks and owls Well, other than the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918... That's the point. The treaty needs to be repealed. If you've been paying attention, I believe Cormorants were listed on that treated as well...Ontario is now putting an open season on them. Hopefully hawks and eagles follow suit Cormorants are a problem here too.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 60,748
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 60,748 |
Around here, they are just ugly birds, they clean up dead stuff.
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,603
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,603 |
Our congress has a habit of passing emotional environment laws that can't be repealed even long after they've served their purpose and are now detrimental. Think feral horses and marine mammals. That's right. Politics and emotions have NO place in proper wildlife management or management of invasive species. But sadly, that's about all that the above is based on.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,603
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,603 |
Where do you find enough dead democrats to feed 20k buzzards? Make 'em?
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 8,596
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 8,596 |
I thought lead bullets were killing all of them?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 13,038
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 13,038 |
Our congress has a habit of passing emotional environment laws that can't be repealed even long after they've served their purpose and are now detrimental. Think feral horses and marine mammals. Right, after the wolves, sea lions, buzzards, feral horses and donkeys, cormorants, racoons, get enough to eat I'm guessing we won't have much left.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 9,596
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 9,596 |
I've seen Turkey Buzzards in Bluegrass area of Ky. all my life, but no Blackheaded Vultures till just a few years ago. A lot of folks thought they'd been transplanted, & like myself, didn't know they were native to the state as no-one had ever seen one here.
Cattlemen hate them & quite a few got taken care of. Then The fish & game dept. stepped in to stop that. They do offer farmers permits at times for control around calving time. Unlike the Turkey Buzzards, who rarely if ever bother a living animal, the BHV have been seen pecking the eyes out of new born calves.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 10,299
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 10,299 |
Around here, they are just ugly birds, they clean up dead stuff. This. When you guys get done with them down south send 'em back up next spring.
Black Cows Matter!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 8,573
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 8,573 |
If ya saw one with a red head he came from here. I don't see the red headed ones much down here anymore. Don't know why. Re: the grey fox: I use to do a lot of crow shooting. One of my spots had a fox hole nearby. When they heard my electronic caller they'd come up out of the hole and start watching the sky for falling dead crows. I kept them well fed.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,603
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 69,603 |
Around here, they are just ugly birds, they clean up dead stuff. This. When you guys get done with them down south send 'em back up next spring. I don't mind the buzzards. They let me know when I have a problem in the pasture, either with the cattle, or poaching, etc. Kinda hard to fool those buzzards...
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 10,365
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 10,365 |
Where do you find enough dead democrats to feed 20k buzzards? Don't know but we can start feeding them
|
|
|
|
554 members (1beaver_shooter, 1Longbow, 1lessdog, 10gaugemag, 007FJ, 17CalFan, 66 invisible),
2,471
guests, and
1,343
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,191,446
Posts18,470,968
Members73,934
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|